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By FaeynHeart
#66252
TechnoProdigy wrote:There are server mods that when xray is turned on makes all the blocks underground look like they are all random ores. I don't know the name but it's a plugin I really think would stop xrayers as every single block under the surface that isn't in sight look like they are all random ores to xrayers.
That plugin stops the "drag-and-drop class modders" who don't know anything. However, someone intelligent can devise a reverse algorithm. It does help, but it is not fail proof. The script being used now seems adequate enough to me.
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By fritterdonut
#66259
TechnoProdigy wrote:There are server mods that when xray is turned on makes all the blocks underground look like they are all random ores. I don't know the name but it's a plugin I really think would stop xrayers as every single block under the surface that isn't in sight look like they are all random ores to xrayers.
Those are called obfuscation mods. They exist, but they require extra computing power and can cause lag.
Agentred wrote: NOT point at NTC here, it was actually other people. But imo, I think Intelli needs to add anti-hack mods of his own.
Intelli has anti-hack mods that he wrote himself. They work fine, and ban the flyers and the majority of xrayers.
FaeynHeart wrote: That plugin stops the "drag-and-drop class modders" who don't know anything. However, someone intelligent can devise a reverse algorithm. It does help, but it is not fail proof. The script being used now seems adequate enough to me.
I think it's safe to say 99.9% of the players do not have the required knowledge to bypass or reverse-engineer a server-side obfuscation mod. A player who did know how to do that could just as easily give himself god powers, or DDoS the server.

The funny thing about this is that in order to not get banned by help bot, a "hacker" (Sheesh I hate that word -.- ) would have to find/mine diamonds at about the same rate as a normal miner, which makes the hack useless because it is not increasing the total diamonds vs. the total time period.

As for it being a permanent ban: Last time I checked, the majority of the ban appeals are from randoms who have been on the server for 2 hours before being banned. And most of them don't get unbanned, or don't bother coming back to check on their appeal. Not the "repeat offenders" that people are talking about. If your talking about Kress, he's dead and gone, get over it.

If a player puts the effort in to show he is sorry, writes a good appeal, and is willing to stick around for a bit while the admins mull it over, I feel they should at least have a chance. If you look around, you'll figure out that a lot of players who are well known on the server have been banned before, generally for xraying. I'd throw names out there, but I don't want to bother stirring up things that happened previously.

TL;DR: Not everyone who is banned is a terrible person.
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By FaeynHeart
#66298
[quote="fritterdonut"
I think it's safe to say 99.9% of the players do not have the required knowledge to bypass or reverse-engineer a server-side obfuscation mod. A player who did know how to do that could just as easily give himself god powers, or DDoS the server.
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I agree with everything you said except this.

More players than you think can do it.
You're comparing two different spheres knowledge (Reversing and DDoS)

But I do agree for the most part..
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By Agentred
#66342
@Fritter- I mean anti X-ray that stops people from turning on an X-ray and seeing the ores. Like someone else said, a confusion mod or something similar.
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By Falconis
#66345
Here is my version of what happens in the x-ray banning process:

Step 1: Find a loophole exploit and duplicate diamonds or glowstone
Step 2: Sell duped items and buy 20 realms
Step 3: Show others how to dupe
Step 4: Get sold out by person you taught to dupe
…or…
Step 4: Get self caught, possibly bragging
Step 5: Get banned
Step 6: Appeal (Greatly worded apology, talk about missing the server and how much the other players mean to you, promise that you have changed a lot and learned your lesson)
Step 7: Unbanned
Step 8: Lay low and try to warm up to Mods/Admis
Step 9: Focus on PvP
Step 10: Find a PvP exploit
Step 11: Get caught on FRAPS by another player you just killed
Step 12: Get banned
Step 13: Appeal (Rehash apology from your prior appeal; that you really didn't mean to do it, that you weren't sure of the rules)
Step 14: While waiting for unban you troll the forums and comment on everyone else's bans
Step 15: Unbanned
Step 16: Lay low but gloat about how you are still master of PvP
Step 17: Decide to make more credits by using x-ray
Step 18: Use x-ray sparingly, but decide you really want a diamond block tower so you go full bore
Step 19: Get caught by moderator
Step 20: Get banned
Step 21: Argue in forums about how you would never cheat and use an x-ray mod
Step 22: Appeal (Plead for justice, that there must be some sort of mistake)
Step 23: Finally admit to cheating. Say you were bored and tired of not finding diamonds.
Step 24: Unbanned

It just seems like it keeps happening with certain people, not just certain factions.
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By kindreganrobert
#66349
Falconis wrote:Here is my version of what happens in the x-ray banning process:

Step 1: Find a loophole exploit and duplicate diamonds or glowstone
Step 2: Sell duped items and buy 20 realms
Step 3: Show others how to dupe
Step 4: Get sold out by person you taught to dupe
…or…
Step 4: Get self caught, possibly bragging
Step 5: Get banned
Step 6: Appeal (Greatly worded apology, talk about missing the server and how much the other players mean to you, promise that you have changed a lot and learned your lesson)
Step 7: Unbanned
Step 8: Lay low and try to warm up to Mods/Admis
Step 9: Focus on PvP
Step 10: Find a PvP exploit
Step 11: Get caught on FRAPS by another player you just killed
Step 12: Get banned
Step 13: Appeal (Rehash apology from your prior appeal; that you really didn't mean to do it, that you weren't sure of the rules)
Step 14: While waiting for unban you troll the forums and comment on everyone else's bans
Step 15: Unbanned
Step 16: Lay low but gloat about how you are still master of PvP
Step 17: Decide to make more credits by using x-ray
Step 18: Use x-ray sparingly, but decide you really want a diamond block tower so you go full bore
Step 19: Get caught by moderator
Step 20: Get banned
Step 21: Argue in forums about how you would never cheat and use an x-ray mod
Step 22: Appeal (Plead for justice, that there must be some sort of mistake)
Step 23: Finally admit to cheating. Say you were bored and tired of not finding diamonds.
Step 24: Unbanned

It just seems like it keeps happening with certain people, not just certain factions.
lol that is pretty wrong. Has that really hapened to anyone? if so who?
By vsniney
#66440
Agentred wrote:I kind of want to make a diamond finding guide... I think I will, actually.
Dig at layer 12 and either use a silk touch or a fortune pick. Guide done. (Also expect to dig for thousands of blocks at a time.)

I personally think "Zero Tolerance" is a stupid mentality. Start with week bans, then move up to revocation of credits and property. If it continues, then move on to perm-bans.

I would bet that half the people that join this server don't read the signs.
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By OtherKitty
#66514
i think one week ban for language and flying, two for griefing and a month for x-ray and duping and such. after that you get one more chance. after that you are done. period.
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By kindreganrobert
#66523
MrSark980 wrote:lol. Kindreganrobert and Ihoolian are at step 14 :P
lol only though I wont do any of the other steps. lol.
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