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#184447
dlgn wrote:
TechnoProdigy wrote:
dlgn wrote:Actually, it has been used simply to refer to black people, back when it was originally coined. Nonetheless, it always had a negative implication, and the same is true of the word "retard". There's fricking reason the medical community and the government stopped using it.
The government also stopped calling Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, "Shell Shock" and "Soldier's Heart", because it didn't sound as nice.
But that's not why they stopped using "retarded". They stopped using it because they recognized that it's offensive and hurts the intellectually disabled community.

People are always saying "Oh no, if I can't say 'retard', next thing you know I won't be able to say anything!" Well that didn't happen for any other of the words in the swear filter, so you might want to rethink that.
Dlgn, really at this point you're just trying to be offended for other people.
Would you say the same if I attacked the use of "f*****" or "n*****"?
Who cares dlgn stahp! F-word or N-word isn't always being used towards the people of that race or sexual orientation.
#184448
Unbound wrote:
dlgn wrote:
TechnoProdigy wrote:
dlgn wrote:Actually, it has been used simply to refer to black people, back when it was originally coined. Nonetheless, it always had a negative implication, and the same is true of the word "retard". There's fricking reason the medical community and the government stopped using it.
The government also stopped calling Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, "Shell Shock" and "Soldier's Heart", because it didn't sound as nice.
But that's not why they stopped using "retarded". They stopped using it because they recognized that it's offensive and hurts the intellectually disabled community.

People are always saying "Oh no, if I can't say 'retard', next thing you know I won't be able to say anything!" Well that didn't happen for any other of the words in the swear filter, so you might want to rethink that.
Dlgn, really at this point you're just trying to be offended for other people.
Would you say the same if I attacked the use of "f*****" or "n*****"?
Who cares dlgn stahp! F-word or N-word isn't always being used towards the people of that race or sexual orientation.
"Who cares dlgn?"

People who are bullied for their entire life and commit suicide because of bullying and shunning due to a social attitude cultivated by the use of those words, maybe? There's a fricking reason the social justice activism movement exists, since everyone on MineRealm seems to have forgotten.
#184449
I'm a baker by trade, we use the phrase retard on a daily basis as this is what we do to prepare the following days work.
Does this mean I would now have to avoid using a legitimate word just because some use it as an offensive term?

I vote no.
People should use common sense in chat and treat others as they would like to be treat.
You can't cotton wool wrap the entire world I'm afraid Deel.
Last edited by Bu1ld0g on Fri Feb 14, 2014 9:04 am, edited 1 time in total.
#184450
dlgn wrote:
Unbound wrote:
dlgn wrote:
TechnoProdigy wrote:
dlgn wrote:Actually, it has been used simply to refer to black people, back when it was originally coined. Nonetheless, it always had a negative implication, and the same is true of the word "retard". There's fricking reason the medical community and the government stopped using it.
The government also stopped calling Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, "Shell Shock" and "Soldier's Heart", because it didn't sound as nice.
But that's not why they stopped using "retarded". They stopped using it because they recognized that it's offensive and hurts the intellectually disabled community.

People are always saying "Oh no, if I can't say 'retard', next thing you know I won't be able to say anything!" Well that didn't happen for any other of the words in the swear filter, so you might want to rethink that.
Dlgn, really at this point you're just trying to be offended for other people.
Would you say the same if I attacked the use of "f*****" or "n*****"?
Who cares dlgn stahp! F-word or N-word isn't always being used towards the people of that race or sexual orientation.
"Who cares dlgn?"

People who are bullied for their entire life and commit suicide because of bullying and shunning due to a social attitude cultivated by the use of those words, maybe? There's a fricking reason the social justice activism movement exists, since everyone on MineRealm seems to have forgotten.
This is minerealm though... don't see how some GAME will affect someones life...
#184452
Personally I'd only support filtering 6 of Carlin's 7 words plus racially derogatory words that always only a put-down. Further, there should be a list of the words so we can know what we can't say. I ONLY support this because Minecraft doesn't have an option to censor chat itself, it falls to the servers to do it.

Actually, I'd rather see the whole chat filter system changed.

/chat filter (on|off)
/report <user> swearing

This would allow you to turn on or off the chat filter. You see filtered words in a specific color so you know what was filtered for those with the option turned on. You can check for the list of banned words (if you have the chat filter off) by doing /chat filter list.

The banned words are filtered just as they are now with asterisks for those with the chat filter on.

Then the only warning/banable offense would be to purposely attempting to circumvent the filter (with spaces or special characters etc). It's always seemed strange to me that we both filter 'bad' words AND ban for them. If nobody saw the word, why would the user be banned?

If you're just spelling everything correctly and not trying to get past the filter, you'll never accidentally circumvent the filter.

If you see a person attempting to get passed the filter and there's no staff on, you could /report <user> and a ticket is sent to either the forum and/or staff with a recording of the last 5 minutes of the chat. If it was a deliberate attempt to bypass the filter, the user is warned with a 1 day ban for the 1st offense. 7 day ban for the 2nd. And 6 month ban for the 3rd. (offenses lasting ~6 months or at admin discretion).
#184453
Valendr0s wrote: If you see a person attempting to get passed the filter and there's no staff on, you could /report <user> and a ticket is sent to either the forum and/or staff with a recording of the last 5 minutes of the chat. If it was a deliberate attempt to bypass the filter, the user is warned with a 1 day ban for the 1st offense. 7 day ban for the 2nd. And 6 month ban for the 3rd. (offenses lasting ~6 months or at admin discretion).
Or you could always use the ban forums as they're intended and post a ban request.
#184454
VVolfie wrote:Or you could always use the ban forums as they're intended and post a ban request.
I don't see a ban request forum in my forum list here... But regardless, I'd never presume to tell [staff] that they should ban somebody. I might "report" somebody for breaking a rule (though even then probably only if it was directly affecting me - and let's be honest, with the plot system, being able to turn off /chat and /pvp... That's pretty tough)...

'Ban request' feels too much like a gross presumption on my part.
#184456
Ban forums not ban request forums, it's the same forum we use for appeals. There's no need to ticket someone. All you'd have to do is send a screen shot to a staff member or post a ban request/warning request if for some reason that makes you uncomfortable..The tickets are basically the same exact concept. "Here's what this kid was doing, ban him if you like."
Also, if the player doesn't get the concept by the third ban he likely wouldn't be allowed back. Six months for a ban is a little extreme. It's like putting a child on time out for 3 days for causing a small ruckus.
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