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#181889
It has come to my attention that there are several players planning to buy several realms after the wipe in biomes that are particularly valuable, while others are planning to just run over to these biomes and strip them of all their precious materials. To prevent heated arguing, and the bans that often ensue, as well as make sure the wipe is at least relatively fair to all players, I think it would be wise to introduce a few rules about buying, selling, and 'claiming' these realms.

Buying: It would be very unfair in my opinion if one or many of the servers wealthier players decided to run around the map, find all the new realms with valuables like the ice spikes and 'disco hills' (I forget what the formal name is) and decided to buy them all up like spawn realms. I do understand that they may want to preserve these realms, but buying a whole biome is excessive, unfair to other players, and overall a bit selfish. Personally I think the size or a 'preserved' area should be no larger than 4 realms, at least until everyone has had adequate time to claim and/or harvest some recourses from these biomes. Furthermore, purchasing a realm only for the purpose of stripping it of valuables, and the selling it back to the server or abandoning it should be banable, because it is unfair to those who don't have tone of credits and also ruins minerealm's landscape (exactly why we needed the wipe in the first place).

Selling: Basically the same idea as buying, but I think wealthier players should not be able to buy realms before the wipe, wipe them, and see if their realms happen to wipe into valuable biomes (For example: Tyranitar, knowing there is an upcoming map wipe spends 100k to buy 10 scattered realms across the map and sets them to be wiped. After the wipe, he visits all 10 realms, strips down all the valuables in the realms and then sells them all to the server or, worse, leaves them there trashed). Also, doing this and selling rare biomes to other people for profit should not be allowed.

'Claiming': Since, after the wipe, all public realms will have been unaltered by other players, many people may attempt to built small huts or even decent buildings to try to 'claim' public land as their own. I think there should he a grace period, just like the purchasing of realms, after the wipe where building something on a realm does not make it yours. This would prevent people unfairly claiming realms but without even buying them, and leave lots of, most likely ugly, nubhuts and quickly thrown together buildings. This would basically be a bit worse than buying the realms since it is making the terrain ugly and could potentially getting people banned.

In conclusion, I think there should be a grace period of somewhere between a week and a month in which the staff add some temporarily rules about the buying, selling, and claiming or realms. I also think players should be limited to buying a certain number of realms in this period, and I have put these choices in the poll. I would love to see what other people have to say on the matter so please give your feedback!

~Tyranitar140hp

Edit: Tried several times to make my own poll after the poll didn't work the first time, still doesn't seem to have worked. The question I tried to set was "How many realms should players be allowed to buy during this grace period" (if it is introduced)
The options were:
None (0)
1-2 Realms
3-4 Realms
5-6 Realms
7-8 Realms
9-10 Realms
10+ Realms
No Restriction
By Wxclm
#181891
If a player wants to spend their own credits on the chance that their new realms may contain something valuable, let them. There is no need to put a restriction on how many or what realms people can buy just because it may be unfair for others with less credits.
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By Tyranitar140
#181892
Wxclm wrote:If a player wants to spend their own credits on the chance that their new realms may contain something valuable, let them. There is no need to put a restriction on how many or what realms people can buy just because it may be unfair for others with less credits.
Well, I don't know much about you, but you, but I believe most players who play a lot and who don't have particularly large amounts of credits would think this is unfair. I can see where you are comming from, I myself could easily buy 10+ realms and am not overly concerned about players betting them before the wipe. However, I think the matters of buying, selling, and claiming after the wipe are very important, since players would easily buy entire biomes, perhaps the only biome of a particular kind on the server. So just to clarify, the poll is only relevant to buying realms after the wipe.
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By dlgn
#181894
Tyranitar140 wrote:
Wxclm wrote:If a player wants to spend their own credits on the chance that their new realms may contain something valuable, let them. There is no need to put a restriction on how many or what realms people can buy just because it may be unfair for others with less credits.
Well, I don't know much about you, but you, but I believe most players who play a lot and who don't have particularly large amounts of credits would think this is unfair. I can see where you are comming from, I myself could easily buy 10+ realms and am not overly concerned about players betting them before the wipe. However, I think the matters of buying, selling, and claiming after the wipe are very important, since players would easily buy entire biomes, perhaps the only biome of a particular kind on the server. So just to clarify, the poll is only relevant to buying realms after the wipe.
If they want to be able to have a better chance of getting valuable biomes, they should play more. It takes work to get to the point where you can do what those people can do, and more work to do it. Why should people be prevented from reaping the benefits of that work? It's like saying "players who have fast grinders shouldn't be able to sell enchantments because users who play less can't get or make them." Would that be fair? Of course not. The people got the grinders by finding and building them. If other users don't have the chance to do that it's unfortunate, but it's their own responsibility to find more time to play, not Intelli's to take away advantages from those who have earned them.

~dlgn
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By Tyranitar140
#181897
Grinders require a great deal of searching underground to uncover, appear in most if not all biomes, and can basically produce unlimited exp. The realms I am talking about could be found much more easily, are likely to all be concentrated in one or two areas, and may contain a number of non-renewable materials. Also, staff have already stated that buying realms purely for profit and then selling them to players or back to the server generally isn't allowed so I think at least that aspect needs some consideration. As stated earlier, I think it is a bit selfish for players to buy way more realms than they need and become extremely wealthy. So you say they should play more. Well you may be able to chose to play as long as you'd like but many people generally cannot spend several hours at once searching for realms (people like me). The point I'm trying to get across is that I personally would not like the wipe to just be an opportunity for the wealthy to get monopolies by buying all the valuable biomes and then leaving them trashed and ugly again and if you really think about it, I think most people would agree. The whole point of the wipe was to attract new players, clean up the map, and allow new materials to become available.

~Tyran
By ColdF3ar
#181900
Tyranitar140 wrote:...the wealthy to get monopolies by buying all the valuable biomes and then leaving them trashed and ugly again and if you really think about it, I think most people would agree. The whole point of the wipe was to attract new players, clean up the map, and allow new materials to become available.
This is inevitable. The fact that the map gets trashed means people are active. We just have to get better about cleaning the map once every year. Spawn realm disbandings are first come first serve and aren't fair at all, they cater specifically to a type of crowd who know exactly how they work and can afford to get involved. Unfair advantages for vets are inevitable in the game.

If you are truly concerned about unequal access and want to make the resource grabbing more fair, maybe you should have suggested something like: "Disable the ability to purchase realms for 1 week after the wipe"
By BSGSamuel
#181902
<Disclaimer: This is my opinion, not necessarily general staff opinion>

I don't think restricting the number of realms people can buy before or after the wipe is going to be feasible (or a good idea). People will just wait for the time limit to be over and then mass purchase the realms so you're just postponing the problem.

There is always a rush for valuables after wipes (strongholds, jungle temples, mushroom islands, glowstone, quartz) and there are always a few people who reap the benefits and profits. To be honest there is not much that can be done about it. If someone is abusing land claiming rules by building cobble shacks I suspect staff will use common sense and deal with these issues on a case by case basis.
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By v1RuX
#181903
ColdF3ar wrote: If you are truly concerned about unequal access and want to make the resource grabbing more fair, maybe you should have suggested something like: "Disable the ability to purchase realms for 1 week after the wipe"
:D Imagine the camp partys on rare biomes when everyone is waiting for the week to get over.

I'm fan of a free first come first serve. I have enough trust into the community that it doesnt get too unfair - wealthy and unselfish players still exist.
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By Intelli
#181909
I assume most wealthy players are too lazy to go searching for new biomes.
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By miniKAT
#181911
ColdF3ar wrote:Spawn realm disbandings are first come first serve and aren't fair at all, they cater specifically to a type of crowd who know exactly how they work and can afford to get involved. Unfair advantages for vets are inevitable in the game.
spawn could be moved beyond 1 of the borders and access to the map could be through a teleporter. then any realm on the map could be a spawn realm.
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