[panthers17nfl]

Panther, this is a great idea, but with the looters restricted this much and trapped next to a huge cube the builders just made, its more a thought exercise in how to slaughter a player rather than a competition of looting. And if the builders were heavily restricted it would just be a click-mine competition.

-Builders may use up to one lava source block and two water source blocks.
-Looters may begin at any position directly outside (one block away from, above, or directly below) the 12x12x12 of their choosing.

[eagleclaw6]

-Builders may use up to one lava source block and two water source blocks.

Just saying, one source block can cover the entire cube.

[cerevox]

Indeed. 1 lava source can be spread easily to cover a vast area. And what about the tnt cube? Looters can't use tnt, but builders can just fill the cube with tnt and blast the looter to bits in seconds. Actually, if looters can't use tnt, does that mean if the builders make a solid shell of tnt the looters are not allowed to touch it?

Don't fear panthers, i can find many more holes. Now you know how intelli felt when i questioned him on the realm system XD

[panthers17nfl]

Indeed. 1 lava source can be spread easily to cover a vast area. And what about the tnt cube? Looters can't use tnt, but builders can just fill the cube with tnt and blast the looter to bits in seconds. Actually, if looters can't use tnt, does that mean if the builders make a solid shell of tnt the looters are not allowed to touch it? Don't fear panthers, i can find many more holes. Now you know how intelli felt when i questioned him on the realm system XD

It's the inflection that is getting me angry, cere.

But I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean if a builder builds an entire cube of TNT? Also, it's in wilderness so that won't work. Nobody can use tnt. I also don't see a single lava source block ruining the entire design. If it IS, then that means our server's looting abilities are very pathetic.

[Cogohst]

Indeed. 1 lava source can be spread easily to cover a vast area. And what about the tnt cube? Looters can't use tnt, but builders can just fill the cube with tnt and blast the looter to bits in seconds. Actually, if looters can't use tnt, does that mean if the builders make a solid shell of tnt the looters are not allowed to touch it? Don't fear panthers, i can find many more holes. Now you know how intelli felt when i questioned him on the realm system XD

It's the inflection that is getting me angry, cere.

But I'm not sure what you mean? Do you mean if a builder builds an entire cube of TNT? Also, it's in wilderness so that won't work. Nobody can use tnt. I also don't see a single lava source block ruining the entire design. If it IS, then that means our server's looting abilities are very pathetic.

Place the lava block on the center top. If it doesn't spread down the edges, tier it a bit.

[panthers17nfl]

Place the lava block on the center top. If it doesn't spread down the edges, tier it a bit.

Or maybe... Looter gets buckets, looter starts with 10 blocks of dirt, something along those lines?

[cerevox]

What about filling the cube with chests and putting random stuff in the chests? The looter would never know when he had completed the task by stealing for the correct chest.

Also, for lava, you would need 2 teirs if you start at the center, but you could get 1 lava source to cover the whole cube and while this would pose 0 problems to a looter in the wild no amount of cleverness will allow someone to stop a lava flow with a pick and shovel and nothing else. This is actually why most looters also carry a stack of dirt and possibly a few levers to allow them to easily break through both redstone devices and to defeat any sort of fluid or large gap/height. (Not that i know what a looter would regularly carry >_>)

Also, someone just a few days ago was saying that tnt worked in the wild. Were they wrong and tnt in fact does not work in the wild?

And the inflection? You simply don't know much about how real looters operate, which says good things about you. Not that i know anything about best looting practices...<_<

[panthers17nfl]

Smoothzcriminal and Lightbulbs have agreed to surrender their prizes should they earn any during this competition.

[Smoothzcriminal]

Smoothzcriminal Division: Slow Heat (prove me wrong )

I will destroy everyone in record time.

[cerevox]

Honestly, i suspect that if you made it to the looters list, you can probably find sufficient diamonds/iron without outside help. But yay for prizes anyway XD

Also, to note is that the looters don't get torches, so lots of squinting in that 14x cube if the builders don't use lava or leave torches behind.

For the first day, we might want to try and run multiple vaults to get a base of times and get every one adjusted, but with flexible timing it lets builders try and perfect their vault and then come back and try it when they feel they are ready.