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By Kress_91
#20566
Wait, wait, waaait.

So basically, Maxee has been banned for a rule that's not even written because someone was too lazy to write it on a page because it doesn't happen very often?

And Maxee is the bad guy in all of this?
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By Rokkrwolf
#20567
You obviously have no clue what's going on with people buying other realms, yes what you quoted is true but things aren't 100% concrete on what he wrote, there's several other cases which this same situation has happened and guess what Intelli removed the realms and reimbursed the players who bought it. This has nothing to do with what I want to do, the decision was talked over by mods and admins and decided.

All the members of your group have been warned before during your antics, it's just a temp ban while it's being investigate not like he's banned forever.
By Kress_91
#20569
So if the mods and admins don't like something that the rules state, and admins have previously stated, then they'll do as they please? We can't ACTUALLY purchase any realm, anywhere, that's for sale?

This isn't just about Maxee's ban. This is about upholding statements and rules to me. We have a conflict of things here. A ban for the assumed harassment has been carried out, but the rule/statement saying people can buy anywhere will not be upheld?
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By Lightbulbs
#20571
Rokkrwolf312 wrote:yes what you quoted is true but things aren't 100% concrete on what he wrote, there's several other cases which this same situation has happened and guess what Intelli removed the realms and reimbursed the players who bought it.
There's zero cases of the person being banned for doing such.

I also love how you are pretending this is a group decision after you previously went "Yeah, me and Kero just decided this would be easier until Intelli arrives".
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By Rokkrwolf
#20573
None have been brought to the forums because Intelli was online at the present time and took care of it himself. Which none were banned and given a strict warning. It was a group decision, 2 mods and 1 admin made the decision.

To Kress,

Not sure I'm just stating what I was told earlier, you talked to Kero yourself didn't you about this?
By Kress_91
#20575
I only heard bits from Kero, but that doesn't mean I have to agree with him just because I like him.

And in this case, I strongly disapprove.
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By Lightbulbs
#20576
Rokkrwolf312 wrote:It was a group decision, 2 mods and 1 admin made the decision.
If mods/admins think that a temporary majority allows them to ignore the server's rules, then I think a culling is in order.
By kerovon
#20577
The major factor here that led to the ban was that I explicitly told the entire celestis group, several times, that if they buy a realm with the express purpose of harassing someone, that I would be banning. I have warned them over this several times. This group has also previously been forced to disband a realm which the erected purely to harass another realm, so they can't make any claims to being ignorant to this.

If you want to talk book of rules, I can explicitly cite him as violating section 8.1, and if you disagree there, section 7.5. Furthermore, I could also call section 6.3 (trespassing; I have witnessed catsfuzz telling him to leave the house that he claimed), and certainly sections 2.4 and possibly 2.1, seeing as maxee destroyed the blocks over catsfuzz's chests. There was zero reason for him to be doing this.

The rules supported this ban, precedent supports this ban, the fact that warnings have previously been issued supports this ban.


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These are the official Intelli endorsed rules. The Book of rules is our interpretation of how we are applying them, but these are the official server rules. I conveniently highlighted the pertinent ones.
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By Lightbulbs
#20578
I find it hilarious that not one of you people claiming to have warned every member of Celestis repeatedly bothered to put it into a medium where the evidence remains public for all to see.

It's almost as if I don't believe any of it at all.
kerovon wrote:If you want to talk book of rules, I can explicitly site section 8.1 as him violating,
Buying a realm is in no way harassing, no more than killing a person in PvP. It's part of the game mechanics.
kerovon wrote:and if you disagree there, section 7.5.

Pretty sure banning people without talking to the server owner at all tends to be frowned upon. Once again, a temporary majority doesn't allow for you to ignore rules.
kerovon wrote:Furthermore, I could also call section 6.3 (trespassing, I have witnessed catsfuzz telling him to leave the house that he claimed),
After the purchase, it's no longer his property, anymore than I can stick a sign on someone else's house claiming it is mine.
kerovon wrote: and certainly sections 2.4 and possibly 2.1, seeing as maxee destroyed the blocks over catsfuzz's chests, and the checked them. There was zero reason for him to be doing this.
How would you suggest giving items back to the original owner without breaking blocks above the chest?
kerovon wrote: The rules supported this ban, precedent supports this ban, the fact that warnings have previously been issued supports this ban.
You have no rules other than 7.5, no precedent (I don't think you know what that word means actually), and zero public warnings. Looks to me like you've got nothing but a God complex.
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