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By BSGSamuel
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It's interesting to see how people in the US seem to be indoctrinated to believe guns should not be illegalised whereas people outside the US, like myself, have been indoctrinated to think the exact opposite.
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By Rick
#195922
BSGSamuel wrote:It's interesting to see how people in the US seem to be indoctrinated to believe guns should not be illegalised whereas people outside the US, like myself, have been indoctrinated to think the exact opposite.
It's just part of our culture. Ever since this country was created they've been legal. In a perfect world, they wouldn't be needed and we could just hand them all in and go on with our lives, but it's not and the only real thing we can do at the moment is fight fire with fire.
By Bonejunky
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Steps were actually being taken in the 20th century to regulate firearms but some stuff happened and the Americans had to shift their focus to the USSR, causing gun regulation to slow to a halt and later be reversed(IIRC). If they had been able to finish those regulations then there wouldn't be as much of a problem with guns now.

I personally believe that (at least in the USA's case since they are too far gone) firearm regulation would fix no problems. Most firearms that are involved in violent crime in the US are illegal firearms and there is no way to regulate those without searching literally every building in the country to find them. I think that if the US was to make the process much harder (I was told one that your gun licence test was something like 20 easy questions, so that's wrong, and adding psych exams would be a plus) so that idiots, crazies, and immoral people ae weeded out (immoral people probably wouldn't use the correct channels, though) and then increasing the benefits from having a licence (open carry, for instance) the USA woud likely have a safer society.
By Eetrab
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Bonejunky wrote: I personally believe that (at least in the USA's case since they are too far gone) firearm regulation would fix no problems. Most firearms that are involved in violent crime in the US are illegal firearms and there is no way to regulate those without searching literally every building in the country to find them. I think that if the US was to make the process much harder (I was told one that your gun licence test was something like 20 easy questions, so that's wrong, and adding psych exams would be a plus) so that idiots, crazies, and immoral people are weeded out (immoral people probably wouldn't use the correct channels, though) and then increasing the benefits from having a licence (open carry, for instance) the USA would likely have a safer society.
As someone who has lived in Australia for a very long time, I have to disagree with you on some points. Increasing gun regulation as a real, statistical effect on the number of gun related deaths. One of the most notable is the fact that since the introduction of regulation in Australia (including a brilliant buyback program), there has not been a single mass shooting.

Granted America has a population 15 times greater than Australia, and has many notable disadvantages compared to Australia including being connected by land to other countries making smuggling a lot easier and having a very different culture when it comes to guns themselves. But these factors alone cannot explain the disparity between gun related deaths in the two countries.

The US isn't too far gone. Australia was pretty similar to the US and completely turned it around. Introducing more regulation and legislation would not cause a immediate change. The change would be over the long term, as in decades long term. Unfortunately many people would look see minimal results in one year and declare it as a failure. The same thing happens with economics, education and pretty much every other system that tens of millions of people participate in. So I guess now its a waiting game for a waiting game. How far will we be pushed before the nation says enough is enough?
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By Markman2001
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Nowww back to the main post!
I laughed plenty at all those posts on reddit.
" I then piloted my motorized scooter to as many starbucks as I could (2) to find him. Of course, I don't know what he looks like; finding that out would be impossible without skills like those of the great hacking legend planephanatic. After a grueling search, I finally found the gayest looking employee while hiding behind the orange stand." I'm dead.
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By MindlessInsanity
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Exactly Krin. Women in the US and have advantages like college, certain groups, court cases for custody, ect. Wage gap is a joke. Places that have REAL MISOGYNY like Saudi Arabia need feminism. The fact they treat women with such negligence and hatred because of their holy book says so is disgusting. Also, yeah, sure. It'd be nice if we had a perfect world where guns wouldn't be needed, but the majority of US citizens I've meet are all self absorbed jerks. I think everyone that is qualified deserves a gun. I'm no uber conservative or liberal. We shouldn't ban firearms but at the same time we shouldn't give them out to psychos.
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By MindlessInsanity
#195930
Meowrocket wrote:
MindlessInsanity wrote:Also Eah. I know guns are more efficient at killing than most readily available objects. But abolishing something susch as firearms will do way more harm than good. I was just gonna write what you would. The black market would make them, or people themselves would.
I mean, with what you said, Jeff:
I'm going into mechanical engineering. I have also been a creative writer for awhile and had an interest in firearms. I have designed several oddball weapons that appear functional in my mind, and I hope to possibly build some of them in the future. Everyone else just has to hope that I'm not some unstable person.
In America, there are no laws regulating self-built weapons as far as I have found. As long as you build over, I believe, 20% of the gun yourself, you are not required to have a gun license. They sell kits to make these unlicensed, unmarked guns. Ghost guns, they're called. People already have shady ways to get around legal loopholes with gun laws in America. Banning them would do almost nothing. These guns can be untraceable unless you find a fingerprint or dna on it. No numbers, no information.

And that's somewhat worrisome.

(Although my guns will be frikkin' sweet, no lie. Although at best they're around the efficiency of a bolt-action so whatever.)
I don't know about you m8. But I live in Illinois The most progressive craphole on the continent. (the only state that demands that you be 21 to own or possess a gun) if I could live in literally any other state I would. Probably Utah or something, but oh well.
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By krinbros
#195931
Well, pretty sure the wage gap is a problem, and a valid one at that. And a lot of rapists in general, ones who have raped men and women usually get out because of the legal system, so, there's problems but I'm sure with a few more reforms those issues can be dealt with. Just depends on who's running the show I guess. Feel the bern.
By Eetrab
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Markman2001 wrote:I tried to re-rail this thread.

I tried my best.
People went too far. There's no track left.

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