[General Grievous]

Piewarrier27 set up a death trap to kill people: on his plot at -1803 -4117 he created a nether portal. when you leave it you fall down and die.

Kind regard,
Alexa

[Tee]

"Traps" are allowed to be made. They cannot be built near spawn or off a main path unless marked.

Based on the above, Piewarrior would likely be permitted to build traps in that location. Regardless of that though, what you are describing is not a trap - it's just a fall hazard, the same as happens all over the place with natural terrain generation. It sounds like you just didn't check that it was safe to walk off the portal and fell to your death.

A 'trap' describes something that is not obvious to the observer until it is triggered, like a piston floor above lava that is triggered by something the player does. A simple death drop is rather obvious if you take the time to look.

[monkeychunks]

A 'trap' describes something that is not obvious to the observer until it is triggered, like a piston floor above lava that is triggered by something the player does. A simple death drop is rather obvious if you take the time to look.

So simple death drops are allowed as unmarked traps or just obvious unmarked traps in general?

[Rokkrwolf]

What you are referring too isn't even a trap. I checked the location and it's not designed to kill anyone, he has a platform right on the other side of the portal you just walked off the wrong side. Just bad placement is all.

[General Grievous]

What you are referring too isn't even a trap. I checked the location and it's not designed to kill anyone, he has a platform right on the other side of the portal you just walked off the wrong side. Just bad placement is all.

I take the pleasure to object your statement:
1. Trap is defined as "a position or situation from which it is difficult or impossible to escape" (http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/trap). If you leave the nether and you don't know in which direction you can leave the portal, there is a 50/50 chance to get killed and thus the requirements of a trap are fulfilled.
2. You assume that it was not designed to kill anyone. Considering the fact that there is a 50/50 chance to get killed, which is known and intended by the designer, this assumption seems to be incorrect.
3. Finally, there was a rule stating that you have to design your portals allowing safe exit. A 50/50 chance cannot be considered as safe exit.

Saying that, I am happy if you re-considered your answer (but I do not expect so).

[Tee]

1. You can escape death by simply not walking without looking after passing through the nether portal. This hardly seems 'difficult' or 'impossible'.
2. Even if it were intended to kill someone, which is arguable, it is neither at spawn nor on a main path therefore it would be a permitted trap.
3. The rule to which you refer is not in the official rules list, however it is as follows:- that overworld portals must not be blocked off such that they trap players in the portal. The portal to which you refer is not blocked off and does not trap players in it, hence it is permissible in its current state.

[Piewarrior27]

I'm assuming what you're referring to is my portal underneath my realm at the coords you said. There's a platform on one side that's perfect for getting out of the portal on, and the other side is pretty obviously a fall. The portal is so out of the way as well, that almost nobody who hasn't been directed there has visited it.

Usually when in unknown areas, you should go with caution, and walking out of an unknown portal off a ledge isn't very cautious. I also noticed you said "there is a 50/50 chance to get killed, which is known and intended by the designer". Why do you think I intended to kill people who come to visit my realms? Why would I want my main portal for access to this realm to kill whoever goes through it?

I find it pretty rude of you to be accusing me of all these things, simply because you fell down in one of my realms. I've fallen down plenty of drops, but I haven't accused anyone of making death traps, and I certainly haven't posted any ban requests.

Most of what else I could say has already been said by tee and rokkr, so that's all I've got. Thanks to them for proving my innocence, and thanks to you for reading this :P

[General Grievous]

I find it pretty rude of you to be accusing me of all these things, simply because you fell down in one of my realms.

I did not accuse you, I state facts. When you leave the nether you don't see that you could fall. It becomes obvious when you step out of the portal and then it is too late. It's obviously a trap.
However, I did not fall down - it happened to another player. There is obviously no other reason given than to kill other players (and btw, you do not even try to explain why you build it this way). I don't know why you did it and I do not care. I really don't see why MR should allow to build such traps. People were banned for building similar death traps before.

[Piewarrior27]

I find it pretty rude of you to be accusing me of all these things, simply because you fell down in one of my realms.

I did not accuse you, I state facts. When you leave the nether you don't see that you could fall. It becomes obvious when you step out of the portal and then it is too late. It's obviously a trap.
However, I did not fall down - it happened to another player. There is obviously no other reason given than to kill other players (and btw, you do not even try to explain why you build it this way). I don't know why you did it and I do not care. I really don't see why MR should allow to build such traps. People were banned for building similar death traps before.

When you said that I knew and intended to kill players, you accused me of making a death trap. Neither I, nor anyone else who has inhabited, or visited with my directions, the realm with the portal has fallen, and that is because of common sense to look before you leap; to make sure it's safe before going into unknown territory.

The reason it's like that is because the realm adjacent to the portal was in the process of being hollowed out (well, it has been for years now), and the portal was placed there. If I wanted to make a death trap, I'm sure I could make a much more efficient and concealed one than a simple drop which can be avoided very easily.

You have been told by many reputable people that it isn't a trap, so why do you continue saying it is? This is just a badly placed portal in a realm in the middle of nowhere, I'd appreciate it if you could drop the ban request.

[General Grievous]

I just figured out that depending on how you enter the portal you land beside the portal, so death is certain. Saying that, your portal is a at least so insecure that you had to change the design.

Interesting to see that staff allows players to build something like that.