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#187468
DRAGON
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Mythological beastie.
SATAN
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Boo!
DRAGON
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Viva la Wales!
SATAN
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The Prince of darkness...
DRAGON
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Poor fella's no match for dem ponies..
SATIN
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Hmm
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That my lad... was a dragon.
SATURN
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Pretty and poorly maligned old god of the Romans, loved so much we named a planet and a day of the week after him.

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Dragon.
#187469
It is to my understanding that Satan is usually depicted with a humanoid form (a form resembling a human body with a few differences here and there). In fact, these statues more resemble lizards than they do devils. Satan is often depicted as a devil. There is generally a huge contrast between devils and dragons: Humanoid vs Lizard.

Furthermore, even one of the statues is standing on all 4 feet whereas Satan only stands on 2. This could even be seen as disrespectful to Satan, implying that he is weak and cannot stand tall on two legs alone, but on 4 like a lower animal.

As for the Arcane dragon, well, it's a dragon, a lizard, not a humanoid devil.

Please do not take this as an attack on anyone's religion, but rather as an attempt to prevent insult to religion.

As for the polls, keep in mind that the possible supporters for this suggestion most likely said "Yes" simply as a joke. Also, suggestions that are directed at players are not allowed and will be automatically rejected (as stated in our topic on how to make a proper suggestion).
In this case, this suggestion is requesting the specific builders to remove their statues.

I apologize for any offense caused, but these statues do not resemble Satan, and maybe even insult Satan by having one dragon stand on 4 legs. I ask for your understanding as well in that these statues were NEVER built to represent Satan, but rather fictitious lizards from Medieval times.

This has been the only time where this topic has ever been brought to light. Since this is such a rare occurrence, it wouldn't be too difficult just to clarify things again (if it ever does come up again).
#187470
You have to understand, even if red's dragon did resemble Satan, his right to build a statute of a particular religion's object of worship trumps your dislike of it unless he is explicitly condoning inappropriate behavior. We're big on religious freedom here on MineRealm, and, as in real life, if you don't like someone's object of worship, you can simply not look at it.
#187476
dlgn wrote:You have to understand, even if red's dragon did resemble Satan, his right to build a statute of a particular religion's object of worship trumps your dislike of it unless he is explicitly condoning inappropriate behavior. We're big on religious freedom here on MineRealm, and, as in real life, if you don't like someone's object of worship, you can simply not look at it.
For example, I have an IRL friend who's a Satanist. It offends him a little to see crosses everywhere, but he can manage because he understands that people have differend viewpoints.
If everyone followed the same religion life would be boring.
You just need to accept that these are dragons, not Satan, and also that what may seem a bit offensive to you is not to everyone else. I appreciate your attempt to bring this to our attention since you saw it wrong, as the ability to stand up for what you believe is a good skill. However, in this case, it was unjustified.

Sorry you have been offended.

-Meowrocket
#187478
I understand your belief that dragons are satanic but I would like to refute your claim.

In the book of Job, Job is talking to god and god is displaying his true power to Job who was a skeptic. God then describes two creatures, one is called the Liviathan. Both have similar descriptions to dinosaurs, so it is likely they were.

12 “I will not keep silence concerning his limbs,
Or his mighty strength, or his orderly frame.
13 “Who can strip off his outer armor?
Who can come within his double mail?
14 “Who can open the doors of his face?
Around his teeth there is terror.
15 “His strong scales are his pride,
Shut up as with a tight seal.
16 “One is so near to another
That no air can come between them.
17 “They are joined one to another;
They clasp each other and cannot be separated.
18 “His sneezes flash forth light,
And his eyes are like the eyelids of the morning.
19 “Out of his mouth go burning torches;
Sparks of fire leap forth.
20 “Out of his nostrils smoke goes forth
As from a boiling pot and burning rushes.
21 “His breath kindles coals,
And a flame goes forth from his mouth.
22 “In his neck lodges strength,
And dismay leaps before him.
23 “The folds of his flesh are joined together,
Firm on him and immovable.
24 “His heart is as hard as a stone,
Even as hard as a lower millstone.
25 “When he raises himself up, the mighty fear;
Because of the crashing they are bewildered.
26 “The sword that reaches him cannot avail,
Nor the spear, the dart or the javelin.
27 “He regards iron as straw,
Bronze as rotten wood.
28 “The arrow cannot make him flee;
Slingstones are turned into stubble for him.
29 “Clubs are regarded as stubble;
He laughs at the rattling of the javelin.
30 “His underparts are like sharp potsherds;
He spreads out like a threshing sledge on the mire.
31 “He makes the depths boil like a pot;
He makes the sea like a jar of ointment.
32 “Behind him he makes a wake to shine;
One would think the deep to be gray-haired.
33 “Nothing on earth is like him,
One made without fear.
34 “He looks on everything that is high;
He is king over all the sons of pride.”

If this creature "the leviathan" is not what we call a dragon, then I don't know what is and this creature was used to display gods power.
#187489
Once again, many thanks for your replies.

Thank you to users such as 'MeowRocket' and 'cubeguy314', who have handled this with appreciation and sensitivity. This is a serious request, so I thank the most kind users who have treated it as such. Whilst some of you find this a most alien concept, I can assure you this is a solemn petition. I would be interested to hear more opinions and thoughts on this topic. :idea:

and user 'Bu1ld0g', in response to your question, Bollywood star Pran is somewhat of an idol in my birthplace! I was born in the same hospital as him in Ballimaran, and I love his films. Thank you for your interest! :)

With gratitude, your friend, Zenmavado/Pran Krishan Sikhand (प्राण कृष्ण सिक)
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