[CraigParton]

Let me start off by saying that I understand the idea behind this. I think its a great way for new players to get a start in the game. I remember the first realm I bought here.. I hid my stuff in the side of a mountain until I got enough credits to purchase. I personally found that fun but not everyone thinks that way and that's fine.

I think the rule can be abused by established players. It seems like once you have enough credits to buy a few realms you should lose this privilege. Perhaps the exception would be if you have a large build in mind and wanted to mark a placeholder to make sure no one ruins your idea. But it should only be a temporary thing with a time limit. I can make a stack of signs a lot faster than I could ever acquire 160,000 credits to actually claim those plots.

What spurred this post was my recent exploration of the mesa biome. I bought 11 plots there with the intent of preservation. And of course to get clay, but I'm only taking from the inside and no one will ever see that. Someone decided to take all the red sand from the public plots they couldn't buy, so I was exploring to find some to restore mine. I found a public plot in a damaged area that had red sand, so I started mining it. But I found a sign saying "Claimed by: [name]". After I put the it back I found two more signs (in different plots) by this same person.

I assumed it was someone who just wanted a few plots in the mesa but didn't have the credits to buy them.. until I walked to the next plot and saw it was owned by that same person. And it had "Mesa 18" as the MOTD, with 16 and 17 beside it. It seems to me that if you have 180,000 credits to claim 18 plots in a area, you shouldn't be able to take anymore with signs. There were two public plots adjacent to the 11 I bought, and I never even considered "claiming" those. It seems like an abuse of the rule. I think having a more defined rule would prevent this kind of land grabbing.

[diamond_boss]

It makes no sense for rich people with dozens of realms already in that biome to want to claim more with signs. I mean seriously, that's just greedy.

[dlgn]

I thought that was only allowed if you're building on the land or something like that, not just if you're greedy.

[OtherKitty]

once you have enough credits to buy a few realms you should lose this privilege. Perhaps the exception would be if you have a large build in mind and wanted to mark a placeholder to make sure no one ruins your idea. But it should only be a temporary thing with a time limit

I agree with this, especially that there should be a time limit. And I think that it should only be for first time plot buyers who have no protected place to keep their stuff. After that you have to work your tail off to get the plots you want, just like everybody else..

I really think that if you need to mark plots that will be part of a build, they should have a time limit. It's way too easy to throw down signs instead of buying them if people think that's all they have to do to have them protected.

[Meowrocket]

I really think that if you need to mark plots that will be part of a build, they should have a time limit. It's way too easy to throw down signs instead of buying them if people think that's all they have to do to have them protected.

This.
This is a great idea, since several people I know have had signs up for a project for a long time, but have never even started. If I put signs announcing work, but can't get around to it, I take the signs down since the land could be better used by a new player who wants a neighbour to protect them or something. Claiming land you aren't going to use within a couple of months is just greedy and unnecessary. Who needs 18 realms of mesa, anyway? ._.

[Valendr0s]

I remember clearly my first few weeks in MineRealm. It was very tense as I tried to hide my precious valuables. I didn't like that very much.

Another option would be for first time joiners get a 1 plot loan. They may purchase a public plot where they like and are brought down to -10,000 credits. Obviously things would need to be in place to remove the ability to abuse the system.

Maybe it's a different command... '/firsttimebuyer purchase' or something.

Contingencies:
1. Once a player makes up the debt and is back to zero, the option for a plot loan is removed.
2. And/Or once a player purchases a 2nd plot, their option for a plot loan is removed.
3. A player purchases a plot, doesn't make up their loan and leaves. When the plot goes back on the market, the player is given back their free plot and retains their earned credits.

(e.g. /firsttime purchase. -10,000. Mines for 7500 credits, bringing them to -2,500. Leaves for 6 months. Their plot is put back on the market, they are credited 10,000 credits, bringing them up to 7,500 credits. And they are given their plot loan option back)

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This would remove the entire concept of sign-based claiming. I understand wanting to keep your options for your surrounding areas open... It's just frustrating to see that around every largeish plot are a dozen or more realms 'sign' claimed. Just seems like a land-grab to me.

[Valendr0s]

To expand a bit. I like the /plot claim option above too.

Claiming a plot means it will remain public. Anybody can still mine from it or build on it. Multiple people can have equal claims to a plot.

Claims could be obtained in two ways:
1. All plots within 2 plots of your plot are automatically claimed (if not already claimed or owned). This automatic claim gives you a 25,000 credit advantage (explained in next option) for plots directly next to yours and 10,000 credit advantage for the plots 2 away.
2. All mining in a public plot is tracked. Once a user gets 1,000 more credits from inside a plot than the other claimants, the plot claim is theirs and they may purchase it.

SO say 4 different users are all directly next to the plot, so all of their claims are '25,000' credits strong. One must get 1,000 credits more than the next highest claimant to purchase the plot.

So to purchase a claimed plot, you have 2 options.

1. Request the user or guild that has claimed the plot to physically unclaim it.
2. Gain 11,000-26,000 credits from inside that plot, the claim shifts to you, and you may purchase it.

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This makes everything far more automatic.

[Meowrocket]

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Are you in the habit of trying to hijack other peoples' ideas/suggestions?
If you want to propose an idea, make your own thread!
This thread is about a clarification of current rules, and perhaps some adjustments.

You are suggesting an overhaul of the entire system as we know it- a completely different suggestion from this.

Please go make your own thread.

-Meow

[Valendr0s]

-Meow

Jingle - Jangle... Ahhhhhh!

[Meowrocket]

-Meow

Jingle - Jangle... Ahhhhhh!

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Please leave, if you cannot stay on topic and make relevant posts.
There is no need to post random nonsense on a rather serious thread that is actually trying to get work done. Any further attempts to derail this thread will be seen as harassment and I will have to involve staff.
I have asked you to please stop posting, so it would be nice if you would comply.

-Meow