Post any ideas / suggestions for the game servers here.
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By snitalvixzon
#10625
LordRamuthra wrote:Lightbulbs, why are you so annoyed? I just want to help. You may not agree with the way I do things, which is fair enough, but it isn't fair to tell me that questioning mods is wrong. Forum mods, Ingame mods and Admins are all human. They may have more freedom to make decisions and control the server, but everybody's opinion in my view is of equal importance. In the same way I do not respect the rank of an Army General because of his uniform, but respect him because of his wisdom and experience; I do not respect the admins and mods for their titles, but for their opinions. However I respect the opinion of a little old lady from Shillington (a small village in the countryside somewhere), just as much as the General, because she has just as much wisdom as the General, but not necessarilly in the same areas. I think that everyone on the forums and game should understand that every individual has a unique set of qualities, and a mix of inputs into a discussion with new viewpoints only strengthens the arguments, providing them with depth and meaning. It helps create a community on here which does not work like a dictatorship, but like a democracy in order for order. Consider my words before posting a comment about how I should have used the edit button please, it is more polite.
Hes not being annoying hes just pointing things out, thats the point of the ideas thread.
And Minerealms isn't necessarily a democracy, Intelli can do whatever he wants. He could come destroy your realm and steal your goods then ban you without anything happening to him. I think Minerealms is more of a communism or dictatorship.
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By Lightbulbs
#10627
LordRamuthra wrote:but it isn't fair to tell me that questioning mods is wrong.
Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong.
What you are saying is that you wish to pick and choose decisions made by a mod if you disagree with them. Don't bother sugar coating it, I don't fall for that bullshit. You are essentially saying "I don't like the decision you made, so I'm going to overrule it despite the fact you are in a higher position than myself"
Most countries have a word for what you are doing, and it's called treason. Normally that's punishable with death.
LordRamuthra wrote:Forum mods, Ingame mods and Admins are all human. They may have more freedom to make decisions and control the server, but everybody's opinion in my view is of equal importance.
Wrong again.
Some people are smarter than others. I am not on the same intellectual level of someone like Monkeytoad, and thus not only would it be inappropriate to take our opinions on the same level, but insulting. Same with power, mods have been given their position because they know what they are doing and have been doing it long. You on the other hand just joined, and your first post was begging to be unbanned. Your opinion is worth less than his.
LordRamuthra wrote: I do not respect the admins and mods for their titles, but for their opinions.
Don't respect their rank, respect them because they can inflict punishments on you and you can't inflict anything on them. Power is just the ability to inflict pain on a person to keep them subjugated y'know.
LordRamuthra wrote: It helps create a community on here which does not work like a dictatorship, but like a democracy in order for order.
This isn't a democracy. This is a dictatorship. Deal with it.
By LordRamuthra
#10629
Th3Guy wrote:In all the cases I have seen on this and the Minecraft forums, grammar will always come first...

You cannot avoid it.
I agree with you there; but I do no agree with the principal. It is not the quality of grammer which should be the concern, more the actual message being conveyed! By judging an argument by it's grammar, is like judging a book by it's cover - it really defeats the point of a discussion. It isn't about etiquette, politeness or grammar but fairness and justice. I do my best to present my arguments in a professional way to avoid having them picked apart based on trivial aspects such as bad grammar. Inevitably, some people will make mistakes when writing but you should not deem their point void if they have mispelt a word. I ask again for a reasonable and fair response to my argument because at the moment I still await somebody who can justify the current problems. I will respond in a seperate post to Lightbulbs though.
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By cerevox
#10630
Well, I had lots to say, but it seems lightbulb stole most of my stuff. Darn him and his ESP.

However, I do want to comment on the way ram has been posting. Specifically his multi-posts and the hideous block of texts.

Ram, please, use the enter key and separate your text out. Those blocks are a pain to read, and considering how little value they have its like pure torture to dig through them. If you can't because your browser can't scroll, consider typing your posts in word or some other text editing software and then pasting them into the browser. Or just, ya know, fix your browser.

As for the multi-posts, those are never ever acceptable from you. There are very few cases where a multi-post like that is acceptable, and you will never meet the criteria for it being acceptable. If you can't manage it, then just stop posting till you have found a work around.

Also, it dosen't matter what your message is, if no one can read it, its a waste of space.

As for your argument, i have yet to actually see one. Perhaps you should try and write it out clearly so that everyone can actually see what you want?
By LordRamuthra
#10633
Lightbulbs from your posts I gather that you are an intelligent person, you implied it yourself. I just want to know why you accept authority so readily? What you pointed out as comparable to 'treason' is something I laugh at. This may sound immature, but please do not take it the wrong way (and your point about this sounding like bullshit I do understand, you want me to cut all the crap, but if I did then I fear I wouldn't be taken seriously [Perhaps I am being ignored already, I don't know] ). Do you not agree that the notion of 'treason' was created by the people in charge; in order to protect the people in charge (in government etc.)? I am adamant that that is true. It is only there to instill fear into those under the iron fist of those currently in charge, who are selfish enough to retain all the power and wealth for themselves. The thing these people fear the most is the 'peasants' rebelling against them, because that means they will actually be like everybody else; equal. In order to stop this, the governments create a police force which imprison anybody who speaks of them in a way they do not see fit. It is wrong. I hope you see how this relates to every aspect of life, including Minecraft. The mods are the police force of the game. Most have good intentions but get too addicted to their own power. Ask any mod if he/she would like to give up his Mod status and I would bet on them saying no. This is because they enjoy their position and do not want people questioning their authority. I don't know if you are just playing 'Devil's Advocate' and arguing with me, or really do just accept whatever the Mods say. If the latter is the case, you really are smart enough to start questioning what people say. I like the fanciful story of David and Goliath, Goliath is what I compare to authority, and it only takes a few people to take the position of David before fairness starts to reign. I am enjoying talking with you, I just don't think what your saying makes much sense. That is unless you want to support the Mods in order to have a better chance of becoming a Mod yourself because you think by praising them, you will be smiled upon. If this is just a cinical proposition of mine, I apologise.
Last edited by LordRamuthra on Sun May 01, 2011 11:46 am, edited 1 time in total.
By LordRamuthra
#10637
Cerevox I am tired of having to keep posting. I have already explained why I am posting like this and I am sorry; I will find a fix at some point. Please just accept there is something wrong with the way things work, or at least acknowledge improvements can be made to the forums, the moderator system and the way the server works. I am merely trying to point out the flaws, yet again people are focusing on the presentation of the posts, not the fact that I am pointing out flaws. This is ironic in itself I suppose, seens as my presentation seems to be an error. But just talk to me on level ground here - don't talk down to me.

And that comment (not you Cerevox) about my ban appeal was a low-blow. Just because I am awaiting a reason for being banned does not mean my opinion is worth less (and definately not worthless). I do admit my opinion would be more biased because I don't want to be banned, but I have valid points too.
Last edited by LordRamuthra on Sun May 01, 2011 11:39 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By Lightbulbs
#10638
I read your last post (The one addressed to me, he posted another one while typing this) out loud in my vent in my dramatic voice to entertain the Novasbiscuitians, and about halfway through I started laughing so hard that it took me a minute to stop.
Seriously? You just openly said that you don't respect authority. You are a proponent not of democracy, but of Anarchy. You said that mods locking topics that you don't want locked it similar to a police force of Orwellian mythos.
This is one of the most pathetic theses I have ever read.
By LordRamuthra
#10641
Lightbulbs you are hard to talk with. It looks like you do not have a very open mind because you said my point of view is 'one of the most pathetic' you have ever read. I respect your opinion. If you do not respect mine than that is just tough for me. I still would like to know why you think questioning authority is so outrageous though.
By Kress91
#10642
This is an absolutely unnecessary topic, which really should have never existed. I'd find it extremely ironic if it were locked.
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