[ramien123]

The closest Dacdac ever got to being a part of Terra Nova was when he allied himself with Terra Nova during the Heightened Negotiations with Foxtopia.

This is because he:
1.) Never filed an application, never had an application accepted, never was interviewed
2.) Never defected with Terra Nova from original Celestis
3.) Never declared public allegiance to Terra Nova during the Schism
4.) Never was a member of the Terra Nova party
5.) Never was invited to the Terra Nova Skype Call

There is no possible way for him to have defected from Terra Nova, because he was never part of it. Therefore it is impossible for me to not be aware of my own people(he was never one of them), which negates your accusation that I am a liar(which is a hurtful, shameful, and disgusting thing to say), which in turn shatters your baseless assumption that I fabricated the information in order to make myself or my organization look better(which is in turn an attempt for you to attain the "moral" high ground).

I think that you need to stop for a moment, examine your facts, contact your out of the loop contacts/informants, and inform them that their services are no longer needed.

[Kress_91]

I couldn't have been more strongly against Dacadac joining our ranks, mostly after having information handed to me by our chief information officer on their members' ranks, and that Dacadac was going to make himself being in the Celestian Rebels a big to-do, as if he was just doing it after leaving some larger faction.

Shrewd intelligence at its finest.

[SilsuCrow]

See, here's the thing. What I'm seeing is not a "you're wrong and here's why" retort which you seem to be trying to do. Instead, I'm seeing a "Let's throw this person under the bus to save face" defense.

You're known for....embellishing the truth (your threads in defense of Kress are evidence enough of that), so what's to say that you're not skewing the facts here for your own benefit? So despite your claim otherwise, I maintain my stance that you are a liar and go on to say that your "facts" on Nova are grossly exaggerated to the point of being more fiction than fact.

[Kress_91]

There's no need to call someone a liar. That's just slander and hurtful :\

[SilsuCrow]

There's no need to call someone a liar. That's just slander and hurtful :\

Only if it's not true.

[Kress_91]

Exactly, and in this case you're being hurtful and insulting :\

[SilsuCrow]

Exactly, and in this case you're being hurtful and insulting :\

Again, that's only the case if the person in question is not a liar.

One could argue that Ramien's over-embellishemnt of yourself and Nova would be considered lying, hence my claim that he is a liar.

[Kress_91]

But it's not, thus you're just being mean and hurtful

[ramien123]

See, here's the thing. What I'm seeing is not a "you're wrong and here's why" retort which you seem to be trying to do. Instead, I'm seeing a "Let's throw this person under the bus to save face" defense.

You're known for....embellishing the truth (your threads in defense of Kress are evidence enough of that), so what's to say that you're not skewing the facts here for your own benefit? So despite your claim otherwise, I maintain my stance that you are a liar and go on to say that your "facts" on Nova are grossly exaggerated to the point of being more fiction than fact.

Incoming Quote Bomb.

"Really now? I have it on good authority and from a very reliable and credible source that the user Dacadac was previously a member of Terra Nova but recently (as of 9/9/11) defected to Celestis."

You're wrong, and heres why:
This is because he:
1.) Never filed an application, never had an application accepted, never was interviewed
2.) Never defected with Terra Nova from original Celestis
3.) Never declared public allegiance to Terra Nova during the Schism
4.) Never was a member of the Terra Nova party
5.) Never was invited to the Terra Nova Skype Call

"I do believe he means something akin to "tears itself up from the inside out"."

You're wrong, and heres why:
"Unfolds"

Whether Terra Nova brings a better future for us through their eyes, or it brings about a worse future.

Either way, good luck."

"(your threads in defense of Kress are evidence enough of that)"

Your wrong, and heres why:
Re: 1.8 Client!
For shame Kress, for shame....(I call him out when I KNOW he has done something wrong and there is proof)

What I am seeing SilusCrow, is not a "Your wrong and heres why" retort, but rather a "Let's throw this person under the bus to save face" defense. Especially since you cannot prove ANY of yur accusations.

[SilsuCrow]

I contest that it is.

He paints you as some paragon of humanity, overly generous with your time and resources and such, that you and your people are striving for a better world and such and that you're leading them to a better tomorrow.

And then I look at everything else. The claims of harassment, the underhanded dealings, the Celestis voting debacle and the reports that you've been banned and unbanned several times already.

So, one person's word (a person who is on your "payroll" as it were) vs the word of many, many more people...

I'm going to have to go with the people's choice on this one. So my claim of "liar" still stands.