[cerevox]

Speaking as someone who harvests from the nether but doesn't pvp I love the current rules. Hopefully all the pvpers will eventually get banned and then I can gather up all the netherrack and soulsand I want without needing to watch my back.

[Kress91]

This is a bad suggestion.

Why is that?

It's time for the nether to have official rules. We cant go on with these Hersey Rules that the Big Faction sets up and trys to bully people to enforce, without enforcing it themselves. That's NOT how it is supposed to go. Ceteri says greifings illegal, but yet can greif other factions buildings while calling a mod to check theirs and requesting bans? No.

I think its about time that OFFICIAL Rules are set by staff. No Gray Areas, no whining about this sides cheating or so-and-so is logging in and out for invincibility, no asking if channel hopping is legal/illegal.

This would clear A LOT Of problems up, and you know it Ramien. If anything, your post is trying to cause delay due to kylefate being banned, and your lot jumping up to save him. YES i said it, and this isnt a flaming area so if you want to flame me for this statement, there is a PM box below.

Marry me.

Ceteri says greifings illegal, but yet can greif other factions buildings while calling a mod to check theirs and requesting bans? No.

This would clear A LOT Of problems up, and you know it Ramien. If anything, your post is trying to cause delay due to kylefate being banned, and your lot jumping up to save him. YES i said it, and this isnt a flaming area so if you want to flame me for this statement, there is a PM box below.

Not a flame, but if you didn't want to start one, leave the personal conflicts out of it. You can provide examples without making a person or group look like incarnates of the Devil.

It's not her fault it's true :3

[FlannyFlan]

Ceteri says greifings illegal, but yet can greif other factions buildings while calling a mod to check theirs and requesting bans? No.

This would clear A LOT Of problems up, and you know it Ramien. If anything, your post is trying to cause delay due to kylefate being banned, and your lot jumping up to save him. YES i said it, and this isnt a flaming area so if you want to flame me for this statement, there is a PM box below.

Not a flame, but if you didn't want to start one, leave the personal conflicts out of it. You can provide examples without making a person or group look like incarnates of the Devil.

Cog, I have no personal conflicts with you.. I am merely stating fact that has been taking place here for about a month. The whole server has seen it. It's not my fault that Ceteri has brought that persona to themselves.

All this suggestion is doing is asking staff to clear up all the gray areas that concern PVP and the nether where it is held. I am pretty sure once this is done, a lot more people will come to the nether, out of not being afraid of being banned for breaking one block or killing someone at the wrong place.

[Cogohst]

Ceteri says greifings illegal, but yet can greif other factions buildings while calling a mod to check theirs and requesting bans? No.

This would clear A LOT Of problems up, and you know it Ramien. If anything, your post is trying to cause delay due to kylefate being banned, and your lot jumping up to save him. YES i said it, and this isnt a flaming area so if you want to flame me for this statement, there is a PM box below.

Not a flame, but if you didn't want to start one, leave the personal conflicts out of it. You can provide examples without making a person or group look like incarnates of the Devil.

Cog, I have no personal conflicts with you.. I am merely stating fact that has been taking place here for about a month. The whole server has seen it. It's not my fault that Ceteri has brought that persona to themselves.

All this suggestion is doing is asking staff to clear up all the gray areas that concern PVP and the nether where it is held. I am pretty sure once this is done, a lot more people will come to the nether, out of not being afraid of being banned for breaking one block or killing someone at the wrong place.

The most we've ever done to another factions building, or anyones for that matter, is tunneling through or maybe placing a few blocks in defense. There's a reason we haven't been banned for griefing, and that's because we haven't. I understand what the thread is for and I'm all for it, I just would rather clear up any accusations that were made.

[smithsps]

Why is that?

It's time for the nether to have official rules. We cant go on with these Hersey Rules that the Big Faction sets up and trys to bully people to enforce, without enforcing it themselves. That's NOT how it is supposed to go. Ceteri says greifings illegal, but yet can greif other factions buildings while calling a mod to check theirs and requesting bans? No.

I think its about time that OFFICIAL Rules are set by staff. No Gray Areas, no whining about this sides cheating or so-and-so is logging in and out for invincibility, no asking if channel hopping is legal/illegal.

This would clear A LOT Of problems up, and you know it Ramien. If anything, your post is trying to cause delay due to kylefate being banned, and your lot jumping up to save him. YES i said it, and this isnt a flaming area so if you want to flame me for this statement, there is a PM box below.

You flame then say not to flame in the same post.



And Nether rules would be interesting.

[ramien123]

Why is that?

Here is why.

I remember the start of the server, when we first realized that we had gotten access to the Nether and were allowed to PvP there. It was supposed to be a glorious, primal, brutal good time. There were no rules, there was none of this "unarmed" bullshit, there were no damn roads that gave people the sense that they were "entitled" to safely prance through the Nether with all their stacks of diamonds and wheat and iron. I also remember that if someone had been idiotic enough to build, of all things, a freaking SHOP in the Nether it would have been A.) Torn to Pieces, or B.) Instantly Robbed and Lava'd. Portal Camping? Ha, that was a fact of life. If an enemy found your portal and were willing to wait there tough, you were in for it. You needed to move and make a new portal far enough away to ambush them. Hell, I CLEARLY remember being portal camped by all the members of Larryland before their bannings. And you know what? I didn't complain. Nobody would have even though of complaining. You know why? There was no concept of order or civility in the nether, it was Hell for Heavens sake!!! You're already damned by being there, might as well have fun with it. And you know what? We did. We ALL did. The "noobiest" of "noob" to the oldest of players loved running into the Nether to mine glowstone or Netherack, and if they got killed doing so they yelled a bit but they didn't make a huge fuss over it that caused SERVER-WIDE FACTION DIVIDES.

One thing that changed was, ironically, the Glowstone. Once it was gone, the Nether was literally useless except for fast travel. This led to the Nether being empty, and people started using it like a highway to more or less get where they were going with little to no hassle. Once forts began going up, griefing was declared illegal in the Nether. Then came me doing something stupid which caused a whole bunch of unclear rules to pop up. Then I did something ELSE stupid and split the server into clearly divided factions with my idiotic rhetoric to make Terra Nova and it's leaders seem good and for the community to forget what they had done in the past, even though all it and they did was usurp a leader of his realm and humiliate him, and make tons of empty promises that they never intended to keep. This made all the tensions ready to snap and, when the road was finished, the first person thought "i can build a store in the Nether" did so and was inevitably killed by someone who was thinking in the old mindset, well, everything just happened. The polarization, the anger...

I have to say people, I'm not having as much fun on Minerealm anymore. All these tensions, hatred, and veteran players frantically trying to get others banned for things that would have normally been laughed off or mildly scolded are dominating the chat and forums. People who were friends are throwing barbs at each other without a second thought, and it's all because of the damn Nether and it's new rules. I am to blame for some of it, yes, but really the Nether is just being used as a "banning grounds" and not a battleground anymore.

My opinion, either kill the Nether rules and restore the fun and lawless wasteland that we all knew and loved, or kill the Nether. The only other solutions I see are to just disable pvp in the nether altogether, save everyone some time, or enforce a rigid code of laws that will make the Nether a bland, hellish sort of Overworld.

But, I don't really care. I rarely go in the nether anymore, there is nothing to do there that I can't do in the Overworld. Except Pvp, and that just causes 14 minute rages in the chat.

That's it, I'm done. Ceteri has no opinion on this, this is just me.

[fritterdonut]

Hell for Heavens sake

10 internets to Gryffindor for using opposing terms in an interesting way!

[cerevox]

Ramien, painful but true. I do remember when the nether was a true ffa and I know what you mean and you are pretty much correct. Factions always divide servers, but the difference between these factions and the factions of previous incarnations of minerealm is their emphasis on pvp. It ensures there will be conflict and not always of the in game pvp kind.

[ramien123]

Also, food for thought.

[jtcanon]

I too miss those days, Ram. The days where people went with the flow, and didn't complain about everything. All of this whining about the nether has really killed my initiative to do anything.