[MindlessInsanity]

Commands are awesome, literally every other server I've been on weather it be vanilla or modded uses the bullcrap stupid "Golden shovel protection system" Leaving to waiting to get more claim space, uneven areas, I wouldn't play on a server unless the claims are all pre divided like MineRealm's or it has really fun mods. I think what made MineRealm really unique and awesome was the realm+credit system.

[legokrin]

Removing credits would take the fun out of mining and actually doing something on the server. Besides building and other things.

[eah]

If you remove the credit system, or at least the credits people have acquired AND start a clean map you won't find any of the older players coming back.

I was actually going to come back at you and say that was Intelli's plan all along. I think he would prefer it, but after doing the research, it seems that at least credits would need to be rolled over to a new server, since development is crowdsourced. See http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... =7&t=14829

To jeff, I agree, the gold shovel system is dumb. Though, I still imagine a new protection system being worthwhile. You could even have the plots be polygons, defined by vertices marked by pillars and sides marked by walls or something else. The realm system was successful, but it may not necessarily be the most successful. I don't see why, after so many years of tyranny under the realm system, we can't try something new.

[Meowrocket]

The realm system was successful, but it may not necessarily be the most successful. I don't see why, after so many years of tyranny under the realm system, we can't try something new.

If we were to 'try something new', I'd want that 'something new' to just be an improved reboot of the country system. That, sadly, will probably never happen, but I'd be hype if it did.

[Darth_Raven]

I have played on a bunch of other servers. Most of them being towny, since towny is somewhat close to what we have here ( Somewhat ). On my many adventures I came across many protection ideas.

Three servers used sponges as their protection blocks, depending on the server, the sponges protected a circle or a square around the sponge, and also depending on the server 10-16 block radius.

4 servers with towny. The towny system, the plots are always small, and towny is costly if you do not have the right economy for it. Depending on the server towny plots were 8-16 blocks diameter and always square. Depending on server, depended on the cost of creating a town and buying, then keeping those plots, and also depending on server , how many you received. This system, unless the economy overhauled would not work on this server.

1 server with the golden shovel - as fun as this was on this particular server, it would not work on ours unless our map was huge. Everybody started off with the ability to buy 10,000 surface block area for free, then you could buy additional blocks up to 30,000 more for money. Which depended on the servers economy on what you could do to get the money in order to buy more area. As was stated above, most borders were not in an orderly fashion on this server, the edges were jagged, and if you had a large group of people on a small server, it would be difficult to find land.

The person who stated if we had a total wipe including credits, veterans would leave. That is not true, I would stay depending on the system that was put into place, I would rebuild. I know this server is in need of an overhaul, but the overhaul is prevented by people who want or need the server to stay vanilla themed. Where vanilla is fun , most vanilla servers I have been on or vanilla themed servers are just as dead as this one. Vanilla is not what people want anymore.

To the person who mentioned MMCO above, I agree and several of my friends agree MMCO would make this server better, but it comes with a problem, spawned in blocks when you dig, plant, harvest, chop wood or shovel, and that is what the vanilla theme prevents. Spawned in blocks would make people mad.

To be honest I think our server would benefit from a store with spawned in blocks, not everyone can drag a mooshroom across the map, not every one is lucky enough to find rarer blocks such as packed ice. A lot of servers that I came across had the sell price at regular player pricing, but the buying price inflated to promote player trading. Who on this server is lucky enough to have enough quartz to build a building with it, have you seen the nether lately. But again vanilla theme prevents an ordinary player from acquiring some of these items, or even seeing some of these items.

Yes if we do not try it we do not know.

Regardless of what Intelli does , someone will be mad and some will leave, if we leave the server the way it is everyone will leave. So would you rather some people left in anger or everyone gone. Ive watched the community go from thriving to dead in a matter of a year. I myself have a hard time playing on the server the way it is now. We need the change, Intelli is aware of this, and I am sure he has taken every bodies advice and made a new and improved server with it.

[Grelman]

Regardless of what Intelli does , someone will be mad and some will leave, if we leave the server the way it is everyone will leave.

I agree but the problem right now is that he is not doing or saying anything. I wish we had the luxury of choosing between one avenue and another, but right now there's nothing but silence. I don't know how we can carry on as a community when the person most responsible for its fate takes several month/week absences from the server/forums. Try not to take my words as complaining, I think we're lucky to have anything, but with our current situation it's just unfortunate that the server's become a ghost town because he hasn't got the time, most of the time.

As for v5, I think it would be very interesting to see us scramble together again to build on a fresh server, perhaps with a bunch of banned people too, as long as their offences weren't too terrible. However, I would be less interested in going to the new server if it meant that our current one went offline. First, I'd hate to see all the time I've put into getting resources/credits up in smoke. Second, we can't know how a new server/map will work out with whats left of our community. I'd hate to see it pan out that people play on the new map for all of a month and then its never touched again once the novelty wears off.

Apart from all this is just the truth that even if intelli is working on v5 as we speak, which is a stretch given how busy he's been, it probably won't happen anytime soon, not even "Soon™". I'd love to eat my words, but just looking at the past, we've got a long wait ahead of us. Here's hoping some life gets pumped into the current server between now and then.

[Legit_Neymar]

Tbh, I don't mind a a full credit wipe. And if Intelli advertises we shouldn't have a problem with players at all.

[MindlessInsanity]

The realm system was successful, but it may not necessarily be the most successful. I don't see why, after so many years of tyranny under the realm system, we can't try something new.

If we were to 'try something new', I'd want that 'something new' to just be an improved reboot of the country system. That, sadly, will probably never happen, but I'd be hype if it did.

I once saw screenshots from Mitchie151 during the Country System era. That looked rather unique.
Also gamer, it sucks all we can do is wait. Pentagon realms sound cool, but I think the basic square is simple and useful. Though I disagree with you Raven. MineRealm's legitness is what makes it so great. Also pretty much anything now can be bought from the richest of the rich, like Arcane. Though I tried MCMMO once. It was a cool concept. Though I think any commonly used plugins will scare away players. The whole reason I stayed on MineRealm was because it's so different and ran by a genuis. I'm sure that's the same case for many others.
Note: What? Legitness isn't a word? Well it should be.

[Darth_Raven]

Yes the "legitness " is what kept me here to begin with, but with recent events the server has died and people went to play on other servers, or quit, I am not saying to make flying available, creative or even mini games, just a few addons like a store and mmco would be nice.

I drug the mooshrooms at my place over 2000 blocks from titan city before the wipe, I could not even do that now without them dying, and there is only one mooshroom island. Reasons like that is why I stated it would be nice to have a store. Or for packed ice an area that resets frequently, but that was already discussed and approved.

[MindlessInsanity]

Yes the "legitness " is what kept me here to begin with, but with recent events the server has died and people went to play on other servers, or quit, I am not saying to make flying available, creative or even mini games, just a few addons like a store and mmco would be nice.

I drug the mooshrooms at my place over 2000 blocks from titan city before the wipe, I could not even do that now without them dying, and there is only one mooshroom island. Reasons like that is why I stated it would be nice to have a store. Or for packed ice an area that resets frequently, but that was already discussed and approved.

This is one of the countless reasons why mods are awesome. MineFactoryReloaded for example, has these things called "safari nets" they can carry any mob in your inventory, but merely one at a time. It makes tedious tasks like mob transfer super effecient with just a little work and materials.