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#184435
Unbound wrote:This suggestion is retarded.
You illustrate my point. When you say that this suggestion is "retarded", you're saying that it's bad or stupid. By doing this, you are insulting the developmentally or intellectually disabled community by proxy.
#184436
dlgn wrote:
TechnoProdigy wrote:Except that retard means to impede, so something like "Mentally Retarded" is a legitimate phrase whether you like it or not.
I don't see how it follows that it should be used. There are plenty of "legitimate phrases" that most of us would never think of using because they're offensive. For instance, n***** is based off a word that is the Spanish word for "black", but this doesn't mean that it's okay to say, does it? Context is important. The word "retard" has been used for decades to hurt the intellectually disabled community, and is just as bad as n*****.
Except that what you are referring to has been exclusively used as a derogatory word and has no other valid definition for use in conversation.

If you go through life stopping every single time you're going to say something to wonder if you're stepping on anybodies toes by saying certain words, you're not going to have a fun time.
#184437
Suggestion:

People just treat each other with respect and don't abuse certain words for insulting each other.

Pro's
- No need to censor the entire English language.
- A more welcoming and enjoyable community.
- Staff spend less time managing insignificant quarrels.

Con's
- People can no longer take their hormone induced aggression out on each other via MineRealm chat.
#184438
TechnoProdigy wrote:
dlgn wrote:
TechnoProdigy wrote:Except that retard means to impede, so something like "Mentally Retarded" is a legitimate phrase whether you like it or not.
I don't see how it follows that it should be used. There are plenty of "legitimate phrases" that most of us would never think of using because they're offensive. For instance, n***** is based off a word that is the Spanish word for "black", but this doesn't mean that it's okay to say, does it? Context is important. The word "retard" has been used for decades to hurt the intellectually disabled community, and is just as bad as n*****.
Except that what you are referring to has been exclusively used as a derogatory word and has no other valid definition for use in conversation.
Actually, it has been used simply to refer to black people, back when it was originally coined. Nonetheless, it always had a negative implication, and the same is true of the word "retard". There's fricking reason the medical community and the government stopped using it.
If you go through life stopping every single time you're going to say something to wonder if you're stepping on anybodies toes by saying certain words, you're not going to have a fun time.
I already linked the Wikipedia page on the Slippery Slope Fallacy. Go read it.
#184439
dlgn wrote:
Unbound wrote:This suggestion is retarded.
You illustrate my point. When you say that this suggestion is "retarded", you're saying that it's bad or stupid. By doing this, you are insulting the developmentally or intellectually disabled community by proxy.
This. It isn't insulting a developmentally or intellectually disabled community unless you want it to.
#184440
BSGSamuel wrote:Suggestion:

People just treat each other with respect and don't abuse certain words for insulting each other.

Pro's
- No need to censor the entire English language.
- A more welcoming and enjoyable community.
- Staff spend less time managing insignificant quarrels.

Con's
- People can no longer take their hormone induced aggression out on each other via MineRealm chat.
So, you're suggesting that we should remove the entire swear filter?
Unbound wrote:
dlgn wrote:
Unbound wrote:This suggestion is retarded.
You illustrate my point. When you say that this suggestion is "retarded", you're saying that it's bad or stupid. By doing this, you are insulting the developmentally or intellectually disabled community by proxy.
This. It isn't insulting a developmentally or intellectually disabled community unless you want it to.
I don't know what I can say to this...it is. That's how language works. You might as well say f***** isn't insulting the LGBTQIA community unless you want it to, or n***** isn't insulting the black community unless you want it to. Well, it is.
#184442
dlgn wrote:Actually, it has been used simply to refer to black people, back when it was originally coined. Nonetheless, it always had a negative implication, and the same is true of the word "retard". There's fricking reason the medical community and the government stopped using it.
The government also stopped calling Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, "Shell Shock" and "Soldier's Heart", because it didn't sound as nice.

Dlgn, really at this point you're just trying to be offended for other people.
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#184443
BSGSamuel wrote:Suggestion:

People just treat each other with respect and don't abuse certain words for insulting each other.

Pro's
- No need to censor the entire English language.
- A more welcoming and enjoyable community.
- Staff spend less time managing insignificant quarrels.

Con's
- People can no longer take their hormone induced aggression out on each other via MineRealm chat.
Takes the whole fun out of minerealm.
#184444
TechnoProdigy wrote:
dlgn wrote:Actually, it has been used simply to refer to black people, back when it was originally coined. Nonetheless, it always had a negative implication, and the same is true of the word "retard". There's fricking reason the medical community and the government stopped using it.
The government also stopped calling Post Traumatic Stress Disorder, "Shell Shock" and "Soldier's Heart", because it didn't sound as nice.
But that's not why they stopped using "retarded". They stopped using it because they recognized that it's offensive and hurts the intellectually disabled community.

People are always saying "Oh no, if I can't say 'retard', next thing you know I won't be able to say anything!" Well that didn't happen for any other of the words in the swear filter, so you might want to rethink that.
Dlgn, really at this point you're just trying to be offended for other people.
Would you say the same if I attacked the use of "f*****" or "n*****"?
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