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#87855
I cannot express enough my disappointment that the ruling on this is not an unequivocal, "No. swastikas are not allowed on this server."

This server is supposed to be all ages and family friendly. To the point where many words that are easily found in PG movies and prime time TV are filtered out of chat and banned for.

It is the nature of kids/teenagers/and many people in general to rebel and try to find their way around authority. In modern society, many people use their intellect to rebel rather than more traditional ways. I understand this for what it is. However, boundaries are necessary.

When someone is putting the ability to show off that they CAN do something ahead of the conequences or their actions and are showing no respect, consideration or empathy for people that will be offended by the actions, someone has to have the authority to say, "No. That is not allowed here."

I'm very disappointed.
#87860
That doesn't look anything like the SMS Bismarck, or any other WWII Ship, vehicle or building existing around the time of the third reich.
Need I remind people that swastikas are banned in many European countries, including Germany, Hungary and Poland.
It was part of the allies victory conditions as a decree that Swastikas, their usuage and displaying thereof are forbidden.

Post-WWII stigmatization in Western countries

Because of its use by Nazi Germany, the swastika since the 1930s has been largely associated with Nazism and white supremacy in most Western countries. As a result, all of its use, or its use as a Nazi or hate symbol is prohibited in some jurisdictions. Because of the stigma attached to the symbol, many buildings that have contained the symbol as decoration have had the symbol removed. Steven Heller, of the School of Visual Arts, has argued that from the moment it was "misappropriated" by the Nazis, it became a mark and weapon of hate, and could not be redeemed.[74]
[edit] Germany
Further information: Strafgesetzbuch § 86a

The German and Austrian postwar criminal code makes the public showing of the Hakenkreuz (the swastika) and other Nazi symbols illegal and punishable, except for scholarly reasons. It is even censored from the illustrations on boxes of model kits, and the decals that come in the box. Modellers seeking an accurate rendition often have to either stencil on the marking, or purchase separate decals. It is also censored from the reprints of 1930s railway timetables published by the Reichsbahn. The eagle remains, but appears to be holding a solid black circle between its talons. The swastikas on Hindu and Jain temples are exempt, as religious symbols cannot be banned in Germany.

A German fashion company was investigated for using traditional British-made folded leather buttons after complaints that they resembled swastikas. In response, Esprit destroyed two hundred thousand catalogues.[75][76]

A controversy was stirred by the decision of several police departments to begin inquiries against anti-fascists.[77] In late 2005 police raided the offices of the punk rock label and mail order store "Nix Gut Records" and confiscated merchandise depicting crossed-out swastikas and fists smashing swastikas. In 2006 the Stade police department started an inquiry against anti-fascist youths using a placard depicting a person dumping a swastika into a trashcan. The placard was displayed in opposition to the campaign of right-wing nationalist parties for local elections.[78]

On Friday, March 17, 2006, a member of the Bundestag, Claudia Roth reported herself to the German police for displaying a crossed-out swastika in multiple demonstrations against Neo-Nazis, and subsequently got the Bundestag to suspend her immunity from prosecution. She intended to show the absurdity of charging anti-fascists with using fascist symbols: "We don't need prosecution of non-violent young people engaging against right-wing extremism." On March 15, 2007, the Federal Court of Justice of Germany (Bundesgerichtshof) holding that the crossed-out symbols were "clearly directed against a revival of national-socialist endeavors", thereby settling the dispute for the future.[79][80][81]
[edit] European Union

The European Union's Executive Commission proposed a European Union-wide anti-racism law in 2001, but European Union states failed to agree on the balance between prohibiting racism and freedom of expression.[82] An attempt to ban the swastika across the EU in early 2005 failed after objections from the British Government and others. In early 2007, while Germany held the European Union presidency, Berlin proposed that the European Union should follow German Criminal Law and criminalize the denial of the Holocaust and the display of Nazi symbols including the swastika, which is based on the Ban on the Symbols of Unconstitutional Organisations Act. This led to an opposition campaign by Hindu groups across Europe against a ban on the swastika. They pointed out that the swastika has been around for 5,000 years as a symbol of peace.[83][84] The proposal to ban the swastika was dropped by Berlin from the proposed European Union wide anti-racism laws on January 29, 2007.[82]
[edit] Legislation in other European countries

In Hungary, it is a criminal misdemeanour to publicly display "totalitarian symbols", including the swastika, the SS insignia and the Arrow Cross, punishable by fine.[85] Display for academic, educational, artistic or journalistic reasons is allowed. Note that the communist symbols of hammer and sickle and the red star are also regarded as a totalitarian symbols and have the same restriction by Hungarian criminal law.
In Poland, public display of Nazi symbols, including the Nazi swastika, is a criminal offence punishable by up to eight years of imprisonment.[86]

[edit] Latin America

The use of the swastika or any Nazi symbol, their manufacture, distribution or broadcasting, with the intent to propagate Nazism is a crime in Brazil as dictated by article 20, paragraph 1, of federal statute 7.716, passed in 1989. The penalty is a two to five years prison term and a fine.[87]
The flag of the Kuna Yala autonomous territory of Panama is based on a swastika design. In 1942 a ring was added to the centre of the flag to differentiate it from the symbol of the Nazi party (this version subsequently fell into disuse).[32]

[edit] Media

In 2010, Microsoft officially spoke out against the use of the swastika in the first-person shooter Call of Duty: Black Ops. In Black Ops, players are allowed to customize their name tags to represent, essentially, whatever they want. The swastika can be created and used, but Stephen Toulouse, director of Xbox Live policy and enforcement, stated that players with the symbol on their name tag will be banned (if someone reports as inappropriate) from Xbox Live.[88]
[edit] Satirical use

A book featuring "120 Funny Swastika Cartoons" was published in 2008 by New York Cartoonist Sam Gross. The author said he created the cartoons in response to excessive news coverage given to swastika vandals, that his intent "...is to reduce the swastika to something humorous."[89]

The powerful symbolism acquired by the swastika has often been used in graphic design and propaganda as a means of drawing Nazi comparisons; examples include the cover of Stuart Eizenstat's 2003 book Imperfect Justice,[90] publicity materials for Constantin Costa-Gavras's 2002 film Amen,[91] and a billboard that was erected opposite the U.S. Interests Section in Havana, Cuba, in 2004, which juxtaposed images of the Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse pictures with a swastika.
[edit] Controversies over Asian products

In recent years, controversy has erupted when consumer goods bearing the symbol have been exported to North America.

When a ten-year-old boy in Lynbrook, New York bought a set of Pokémon cards imported from Japan in 1999, his parents complained after finding that two of the cards contained the Manji symbol which is the mirror image of the Nazi swastika. This also caused a lot of concern amongst fans from Jewish communities. Nintendo of America announced that the cards would be discontinued, explaining that what was acceptable in one culture was not necessarily so in another; their action was welcomed by the Anti-Defamation League who recognised that there was no intention to be offensive but said that international commerce meant that "isolating [the Swastika] in Asia would just create more problems."[92]

In 2002, Christmas crackers containing plastic toy pandas sporting swastikas were pulled from shelves after complaints from consumers in Canada. The manufacturer, based in China, explained the symbol was presented in a traditional sense and not as a reference to the Nazis, and apologized to the customers for the cross-cultural mixup.[93] In 2007, Spanish fashion chain Zara withdrew a handbag from its stores after a customer in Britain complained swastikas were embroidered on it. The bags were made by a supplier in India and inspired by commonly used Hindu symbols, which include the swastika.[94]
#87903
Everyone needs to calm down and gain some perspective. The use of the swastika for historical recreations is a perfectly legitimate use. Or do you think the movies Casablanca and Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark should not have been made because they have swastikas in them?

That being said, I agree with Lm108 that this does not look to be a legitimate historical use:
Lm108 wrote:Mager, what are you building? I flew by and it quite disturbed me, I was quite tempted to rollback the entire thing... I don't remember anything in movies or real life ever looking like this.... http://imgur.com/9F95C
#87907
bcbarton wrote:Everyone needs to calm down and gain some perspective. The use of the swastika for historical recreations is a perfectly legitimate use. Or do you think the movies Casablanca and Indiana Jones Raiders of the Lost Ark should not have been made because they have swastikas in them?

That being said, I agree with Lm108 that this does not look to be a legitimate historical use:
Lm108 wrote:Mager, what are you building? I flew by and it quite disturbed me, I was quite tempted to rollback the entire thing... I don't remember anything in movies or real life ever looking like this.... http://imgur.com/9F95C
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#87911
Intelli wrote:Swastikas are permitted under appropriate settings. For example, re-creating a building from Nazi Germany that had a Swastika on it.

In general, if something can be shown in a PG movie, then it's allowed to be built in-game.
Thanks for your reply Intelli, so if lets say you recreate building a Nazi Building that has a Swastika on it is allowed. But making Swastika for fun, on a land of graas is not allowed?
#87946
Just grow up and get a thicker skin.

The Nazi regime is dead and gone, and has been for 50 years. I highly doubt that anyone on this server was ever alive during that period.

You shouldn't be so offended of a symbol from a group that is all but dead. If anything, you should laugh at it, because the Third Reich was an epic failure.
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