[Intelli]

Voted no ONLY because of A and B. My questions are why should we add a fee to something that has been so readily available? What good will come out of it that EVERYONE can benefit from? I completely love C through I, but I'm finding A and B a little bit too much, and I think that might be why most people are voting "No."

We are classifying and limiting people even further now by their wealth on Minerealm. If this is implemented, only the richest players can have the best guilds.

It's still free and readily available, but now under the name of the buddy system. Having two chat systems for the same purpose is pointless.

[Rokkrwolf]

It's still free and readily available, but now under the name of the buddy system. Having two chat systems for the same purpose is pointless.

Pretty sure they don't serve the same purpose seeing as people use the buddy chat to talk to people ect in other guilds/friends.

[Intelli]

It's still free and readily available, but now under the name of the buddy system. Having two chat systems for the same purpose is pointless.

Pretty sure they don't serve the same purpose seeing as people use the buddy chat to talk to people ect in other guilds/friends.

You can still use it to talk to the same people who were in your guild.. but it's not just limited to specific people. It's better than the guild/party system was.

[cubeguy314]

But then even if your buddy system isn't so vast as VVolfie's, you'd could still receive irrelevant buddy chat messages such as,
Cubeguy314:AEL! If the mongols invaded China, does that mean several Chinese are actually Mongolian?
VVolfie: Lol, yes the cake is bloo
Cubeguy314: What cake?
AEL!: (Ael says words)
Cubeguy314: No, no, the cows don't go in there!
AEL!: What cows?
Another thing is, how many people would want to pay "15k/user if there's 10 members initially" (Intelli) for just one guild when each of those 10 players could have 15 realms? 15 realms? Or one guild?

Also, this could possibly be pushing the competitiveness a bit too far. Who would want to work for 150000 to start up one guild that might not even be successful?

[Intelli]

Another thing is, how many people would want to pay "15k/user if there's 10 members initially" (Intelli) for just one guild when each of those 10 players could have 15 realms? 15 realms? Or one guild?

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That's 1.5 realms per user.

15 realms x 10 users = 150 realms = 1,500,000 credits.

[OneManWo1fPac]

Not everyone has 150k just to drop. Even with member combining. And then think of all the noobs, who want to talk with there friends, the chat will be spammed with people who can't afford it guild chat

[Intelli]

Not everyone has 150k just to drop. Even with member combining. And then think of all the noobs, who want to talk with there friends, the chat will be spammed with people who can't afford it guild chat

Derr, the point is that guilds will be something to work towards and not be something every user can have/afford.

Also, as I've already said. Buddy chat.

[Legit_Neymar]

Wait do all the members have to pitch in or could there be like two or three people. Plus the ranking could have three full leaders or founders and then the lower ranking of as many as possible?
Edit oh and wolf chek your pm's

[sliothar16]

The Changes:

Since the guild system is no longer *necessary* for group chats, I suggest we improve it and make it more competitive.

Change A. Creating a guild will no longer be free. In order to create a guild, you must dedicate a realm as being a guild base. This realm must be owned by the primary guild leader. 6 users must gather within this realm (who will be the guild members)

Then, in order for the leader to create the guild, they must pay 150,000 credits. (15k/user if there's 10 members initially). Sure, it may not sound cheap, but being in a guild will be something you work towards, and will be a status symbol for the elite.

Change B. Guild will have a limited number of slots. When you initially create the guild, you'll only have 10 slots initially. Additional slots will cost the following:

Expansion #1: 50k (15 members)
Expansion #2: 150k (20 members)
Expansion #3: 250k (25 members)
Expansion #4: 350k (30 members)
Each additional expansion will cost 500k credits (for 5 slots), up to a maximum amount of 100 slots.

Thanks!

Creating a guild would be far too difficult right off the bat with Changes (A) and (B). If you have to work so darn hard to even create one in the first place, it becomes a "why bother?" situation for players like me and johnnklein. Players like me and john don't want a guild to represent being "Elite," we just want to show people that we work together as partners.

Guilds shouldn't be like the failed country system. Some players don't want a huge faction of people ofr "battling" or that sort; they just want 2 or 3 people in a guild. Because of this, it shouldn't cost so many credits to form a group. Besides, you said guilds would have to be linked to a realm - change (A). Because of this, I say, if you simply MUST charge for a realm, make it no more than a realm's price: 10,000.

[cubeguy314]

All this quantum mechanics studying late at night has drastically affected my mental mathematics calculations. Ugh. How did I not catch that error?

Anyways, I think the main reason why you, Intelli, are receiving so many "no" voted is because the people don't see how this would benefit them. Not only are you going to disband their guilds that they have strived to bring to the top, but you are also putting a fee on something that they enjoy and cherish.

Hypothetically,
It's like if you were to have some cows that you could breed and then kill for their drops, then rebreed. Then I came along and said, "Y'know what? I'm going to change this so that it costs you 20,000 credits to make a farm to raise them, 10,000 credits to breed only 2 cows to make another one, and 5000 more for each cow that you kill. AND, I have have just gotten rid of your farm and all your cows. If you don't like these taxes, then you can stick with the good ol' free melon farming."
Now this might bring up the price of steak and leather, but you might not make a profit if it costs so much just to farm all of it. And it would take a significant amount of credits to start up as well. How far have I pushed you? Do you want to farm more cows, or do you think it's now a hassle? The majority of Minerealm who aren't super rich like Jackdecker might think it's a hassle.



How far are you trying to push these people? How far can these people be pushed until they think it becomes a hassle and a waste of time?
. <-- the smiley face signifies that I'm not trying to have any sort of harsh tone at all. So I hope that I'm not conveying one. My apologies if I am.