[s292r]

So far I've seen many people argue that trading credits for money would cause a disadvantage to poor players, yet I've seen no convincing explanation as to how it causes a disadvantage.

Are you blind, thick or stupid?
Time for a load of links to posts in this thread were they explain it in black and white for you.
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 20&start=3
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 20&start=4
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 20&start=5
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 0&start=13
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 0&start=21

Tehbomb420 recently completed some transactions where credits were sold for money. I would appreciate it if those of you claiming that trading credits for money causes a disadvantage could explain to me in what way those transactions have put you at a disadvantage so that I may understand your point of view.

Why hasn't it caused a disadvantage? Because this hasn't been passed and that's why there is a poll at the top of the thread.

Lacking a convincing argument I can only assume that it is a baseless argument with no merit.

The base of the argument is shown multiple times in the long list of links I put at the top.

Anyway, I can only guess you will scroll straight over this and continue to type mindless drivel towards what you can only see as self profit.

Now I must ask you the question, what do you plan to do straight after this passes?
-No do anything? Well why are you campaigning for this post. The only outcome would be bad for the server.
-Buy in all the credits you need for a build? Well, wouldn't that be a disadvantage to the people who couldn't afford that and... Oh, render your posts useless.
Or are you planning something else?

[kerovon]

I'd just like to comment that the gambling thing is pretty close to entirely baseless. If your argument were true, then games such as WoW would be illegal in the US. I would assume that the chances of anything negative occurring based on gambling as an excuse would be slightly less than the chances of Notch becoming a mod on minerealm.

[Intelli]

s292r has been banned for trolling.

Funny how he suddenly cares so much about the economy when he was duping items for pretty much the entire time he was a mod.

[charredmonkey]

So far I've seen many people argue that trading credits for money would cause a disadvantage to poor players, yet I've seen no convincing explanation as to how it causes a disadvantage.

Are you blind, thick or stupid?
Time for a load of links to posts in this thread were they explain it in black and white for you.
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 20&start=3
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 20&start=4
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 20&start=5
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 0&start=13
http://minerealm.com/community/viewtopi ... 0&start=21

Tehbomb420 recently completed some transactions where credits were sold for money. I would appreciate it if those of you claiming that trading credits for money causes a disadvantage could explain to me in what way those transactions have put you at a disadvantage so that I may understand your point of view.

Why hasn't it caused a disadvantage? Because this hasn't been passed and that's why there is a poll at the top of the thread.

Lacking a convincing argument I can only assume that it is a baseless argument with no merit.

The base of the argument is shown multiple times in the long list of links I put at the top.

Anyway, I can only guess you will scroll straight over this and continue to type mindless drivel towards what you can only see as self profit.

Now I must ask you the question, what do you plan to do straight after this passes?
-No do anything? Well why are you campaigning for this post. The only outcome would be bad for the server.
-Buy in all the credits you need for a build? Well, wouldn't that be a disadvantage to the people who couldn't afford that and... Oh, render your posts useless.
Or are you planning something else?

None of the listed "explanations" explain how anyone is disadvantaged from having others trade credits for money. At best I see a fear that new players will buy some credits which will allow them to purchase realms and other goods. I fail to see how that causes anyone a disadvantage. Not to mention that new players aren't very likely to spend money for credits on a server which they might not stay on very long. More likely the players buying credits will be regulars with big projects in mind and in need to lock up some land.

You seem to agree that Tehbomb's sale of credits has caused no disadvantage yet claim it would if a ban on credit trading takes place. Either you are misreading me or I am misreading you, but that doesn't make any sense.

If this ban passes, I plan to do nothing. Besides the fact that doing something would result in a ban, I lack interest in trading credits for cash. I am however opposed to banning credits for cash transactions because it causes no disadvantages or unfair advantages for anyone. I currently own 7 realms with nothing built on them, am I causing anyone a disadvantage in owning unused land? do I have an unfair advantage by owning those realms? If I decided to sell those plots to someone for cash, who would be at a disadvantage? who would be at an advantage? If someone buys land with credits bought with cash, who is disadvantaged? What unfair advantage does he have from buying land? Would there be an unfair advantage if he had taken a loan instead? Who has the most unfair advantage, someone who buys credits with money or someone who happened to be around when there was a nether wipe?

[sarcasm]As for my future plans, I plan on becoming a mod, duping items, selling them at lower than market value, selling the credits earned for cash and running off with helpbot. [/sarcasm]

[Agentred]

s292r has been banned for trolling.

Funny how he suddenly cares so much about the economy when he was duping items for pretty much the entire time he was a mod.

Ha.

S2 just got Intelli'd.

[ChronicTacos]

Hey everyone!

As I'm sure you're aware, there has been some debate among players recently regarding the buying and selling of credits for cash. Personally, we (the staff) don't care. Therefore, we're letting you guys make the decision.

So, should players be permitted to exchange credits for cash?

To note, this would still be in no way officially supported by MineRealm. If you get scammed, that's your own loss. This poll is ultimately regarding if we should ban people who attempt to buy/sell credits for real life currency.

Happy voting!

I support it.

[Prodigy9]

s292r has been banned for trolling.

Funny how he suddenly cares so much about the economy when he was duping items for pretty much the entire time he was a mod.

Thank you, Intelli. He was getting annoying, particularly since what he did was far worse for the economy than the RWT he complained about.

[Roobean]

I see no problem with this being allowed.

The only problem would be if a Player Buying wasn't cautious enough.

I.E didn't look at the Sellers History or ask to either have the Credits sent first or show prove of them having enough Credits for the required amount.

This doesn't harm anything.

[Susan_Boyle]

This doesn't harm anything.

Apart from giving a huge advantage to those who have more money in real life, meaning that they will no longer have to work to gain credits, as they know that when they run out, they can just buy more.

So what happens when the amount of credits circulating in the economy starts to decrease (either due to becoming locked up in land, or lost as tax) and players decide that it would be far easier just to trade in real life currency, making trading incredibly difficult for those who can't, or do not wish to invest real life currency into a game? The answer is simple - those who cannot afford to pay their way through transactions etc. could become sick of always being less able to trade with other players and could ultimately leave the server.

[MrKeveCool]

I see no problem with this being allowed.

The only problem would be if a Player Buying wasn't cautious enough.

I.E didn't look at the Sellers History or ask to either have the Credits sent first or show prove of them having enough Credits for the required amount.

This doesn't harm anything.

Yes it does it harms the economy and how fun is it to see that other People just buy realm after realm with IRL Money when you work your ass of just to make enough credits for 1 realm. So i say no dont allow this. It will make minerealm Boring. Dont make the gap betwen rich and poor People in minerealm. Biger.