[guadalcanal1]

Fair enough. I do still enjoy the current system though.

[Intelli]

Main post updated. Primary changes:

Plots renamed back to realms.
Realms renamed to spawns.

(Nothing actually changed besides wording)

[mitchie151]

Intelli, how is paying for more people in your party a good thing?
Do guilds actually give any advantage at all?

[FaeynHeart]

While I am thankful for the name change, I'm failing to see the purpose behind the guild addition.. If someone wouldn't mind elaborating on how this is a helpful change to the server, then I would appreciate it.

EDIT: Also Intelli, I think on the main post the "Realm Warps" title needs to be changed to "Spawn Warps" to avoid confusion. You don't want newbies thinking they can warp to any old realm they feel like

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EDIT: Disregard this post.

[fritterdonut]

unequal distribution of wealth

Whadd'ya think this is, a communism? Sorry, but capitalism doesn't work that way, broski. You work for your money, your items, and your realms.

As I final note, I think there needs to be some kind of server run income tax, to prevent the inflation. I say income tax, because in the real world (at least in the US), income tax is a progressive tax. As the amount of income increases, the percentage of pay taken out of your pay check also increases (I think linearly). So, for example, someone earning $200,000 /year might have a 30% income tax, leaving a net pay of $140,000. Someone earning $40,000 /year might have a 5% income tax, leaving a net pay of $38,000. This would shrink the unequal distribution of wealth because those with more credits would lose more and it would also prevent inflation (although the tax and any other credits being transferred to the server already do this). This could be added in with the .5 credits earned for placing and destroying blocks. Players with more credits earn less, while players with less credits, earn more.

This is a completely retarded idea. We already have a 10% tax on all transfers to prevent inflation. Progressive income tax discourages the hardest workers.

Go away.

I don't like you.

[cerevox]

Lovely, a wall of gibberish. Where to start...

BUT there's not much interference in a newbie's ability to earn, buy, and build.

There is, or did you not read the part where you need level 10 to get into the nether. Also, not having a realm opens you up to easy theft.

The way I see it, every player has practically the same amount of time to get to the nether once the new system is added.

You must of missed the part where Intelli gave the chart of increasing xp returns for larger parties. Beyond that, pre-built factions will have another advantage in that some can focus on grinding xp while others provide tools and food. So no, the time is not the same, not even close.

The players who go out in the gold rush will have plenty of glowstone for themselves, and more to sell to players who want it or who didn't participate in the gold rush. The initial price will, thus, be low, because there will be a lot of it.

LOL. If a player has a bunch of glowstone, would they lower their price or keep it super high and gouge the crap out of everyone? That answer is fairly obvious. Especially when things like price fixing are perfectly legal.

Once all the exponential credit system gets going, the average player will have a large amount of credits, making the price of glowstone (and everything) increase.

Exponential credit system? Why would the average player have lots of credits? Are they not spending? You assume everyone is just going to save? Prices seem to stay fairly stable over the long run in minecraft because in minecraft, unlike in real life, most resources are effectively infinite.

Still, this same new player can sell something for a high price to the rich players, and earn a lot of credits for themselves.

Because rich people become generous?

Although, this same "trickle down" concept failed during the great depression, for whatever reason.

I hate to involve politics, but the trickle down effect does not exist so of course it failed to work in the great depression. Its some crap made up decades ago to support an unsupportable position.

I guess you need to be educated in economics to wrap your head around that.

No, it is clearly you who need to be educated in economics. Recall back to the very first econ class you ever took. What was the first thing the prof told you? Most likley the definition of economics, right? It was probably something like "The study of how people make choices given unlimited wants but limited resources." The key here is that, as I mentioned earlier, minecraft has effectively infinite resources. Also, economics assumes people act rationally. That isn't always the case in a video game where death is cheap and almost meaningless.

I'm concerned about this. In fact, this is why those guild size expansion costs are so high. Because you'll gain 50,000 credits that much faster. There also needs to be a way for the credits coming into the economy, to be going straight out, to prevent the inflation of prices.

Huh? How are guilds going to cause inflation? Guilds, as far as I can tell, are identical to the factions we already have with the bonus of having a guild chat. The factions didn't cause crazy inflation so I doubt the guilds will.


On the income tax, IIRC there is a 10% tax on all RC transactions. Beyond that though, the concern about inflation seems a little odd. This a video game, not real life, so the vast majority of bad things associated with inflation don't apply.

Wow, look at me adding math to a video game, the same excuse we use to get away from doing our math homework. Sorry for those who read this and now have a headache!

Math? You mean crap and buzzwords, right? Headache, only from having to slog through this non-sense.


Edit: By the chunky and rich blood of the FSM, I have created a true wall of text. Didn't realize it was so huge till I posted.

[fritterdonut]

Hooray for Cerevox!

On a related note, perhaps turn the party XP gain down a bit?

[cerevox]

On a related note, perhaps turn the party XP gain down a bit?

Why? The primary issue is the interaction of the level cap for the nether and the party xp gain plus the fact that the factions will help themselves grind xp faster. If a real solution is to be found it will have to address the whole combo, not just the party xp.

[fritterdonut]

Why? The primary issue is the interaction of the level cap for the nether and the party xp gain plus the fact that the factions will help themselves grind xp faster. If a real solution is to be found it will have to address the whole combo, not just the party xp.

I have no problem with the level cap, however, if party XP was reduced, then singular players (any non-faction players, like me) could earn XP at close to the same rate as the factions could. Thus players could level as fast or almost as fast as the factions, and thus get in the nether in around the same timeframe.