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By dragoncrystal24
#12190
I think many people in this are not getting it. Panthers and Intelli seem to be the only ones who are fully understanding this, possibly Lightbulbs as well. I'm going to caps it and put it in big red letters so you all can see it:

YOU DO NOT NEED TO MAKE A REALM

Realms are more of a reward thing, I guess. Instead of realms meaning a house, realms now mean huge city of rich people. Realms are only for the ones with the integrity to work to get it. You do not need a realm to have a community. As panthers has mentioned before in this thread, karachi did great. Why can't we make communities that are not realms? WE CAN. I personally have not gotten 60 diamonds in all my MineRealm existence, And I don't need to!

I have some questions about this though:
1) Would it be possible to have 2 /home's? This would make it so that if someone is a member of a realm community, and also a non-realm community, they could still go from one to the other. With /realm warp removed, this would be a great addition for players who like to build and not walk a bunch.

2) Will there be railroad track protection for non-realm people? That way, someone who is in a non-realm community could still create a track that stretches to another community, without fear of griefing, although they could just give someone who is in a 100x100 realm the minetracks and tell them to make it...

3) This has been stated previously. Is there any protection for non-realm communities from realms? Someone could have a wonderful non-realm community (I'll call it NRC), then someone plonks a realm right on top of that. That would not be fair to the players. You could say that the person would be forced to disband the realm, and that would work. But what if someone unwillingly expands into an NRC? We couldn't just tell them to disband their realm if it is 200x200, that wouldn't be fair to the realm. It wouldn't be fair to the NRC either if we did nothing about it. Does anyone have any ideas about this?

4) Chest protection for NRC's. Will there be any? I personally don't care, I'm just bringing up the point.
By Bonejunky
#12200
panthers17nfl wrote:Okay, what would you guys think about:
Plan A. 20 Diamonds initially, and then 5 diamonds per week or something (rent). Perhaps cost more for more players, I don't know. No.
Plan B. Reduce the limit of creating a realm to 4 players, but increase the cost of diamonds from 60 to 80 or even 100. No.
Plan C. 20 Diamonds initially, and then there must be block activity of something like >500 blocks moved per two days , otherwise realm is disbanded. Definitely no.
Plan D. 20 Diamonds initially, and then 4 diamonds per 2 days until the realm exceeds 100x100. Hmm...
Plan E. 20 Diamonds initially, and must have a Donor in the party for the realm to be created. Donor must remain in the realm. Leaving gives a 3-day stasis period for the realm to find another Donor. Pay REAL money for realms? I don't think so.
I like D the most. I can probably get to 110x110 in a few days.

For C I like the 20 diamonds, but I can't get on every day and also, it wouldn't give much time for me to visit Spawn and chat with other people.

E. I do not like E. E is one of the worst. I'm not gonna pay money just to create a realm. Plus I'm not allowed to use my money on online games. Don't know why, I'm just not allowed.

Why would we use B? Making each person pay 20-25 diamonds? Thats one of the worst plans I have heard in my life. I can't find diamonds ever and I can't be on Minecraft non-stop for all of my teenage years.

A is OK I guess. I still don't like it though. If we had to pay 5 diamonds a week to keep a realm, all the realm's diamonds would be gone in a matter of months. Diamonds can be used for better things than rent.

D is probably what I would choose. It is actually quite easy to get over 100x100, but if there is gonna be a new system, then I'm not sure.
By Bonejunky
#12208
dragoncrystal24 wrote:I think many people in this are not getting it. Panthers and Intelli seem to be the only ones who are fully understanding this, possibly Lightbulbs as well. Also me and Bonejunky fully understand this as well. I'm going to caps it and put it in big red letters so you all can see it:

YOU DO NOT NEED TO MAKE A REALM

Fixed.

Of course I understand this but, if I want my creations and items safe and sound, I would want a realm so it cannot be expanded over and my 9 million and a half diamonds don't get stolen.

And, Light, why do you still post here if you are banned? Is it to give good advice or to troll Cats? Lol.
By panthers17nfl
#12211
Bonejunky wrote: I like D the most. I can probably get to 110x110 in a few days.

For C I like the 20 diamonds, but I can't get on every day and also, it wouldn't give much time for me to visit Spawn and chat with other people.

E. I do not like E. E is one of the worst. I'm not gonna pay money just to create a realm. Plus I'm not allowed to use my money on online games. Don't know why, I'm just not allowed.

Why would we use B? Making each person pay 20-25 diamonds? Thats one of the worst plans I have heard in my life. I can't find diamonds ever and I can't be on Minecraft non-stop for all of my teenage years.

A is OK I guess. I still don't like it though. If we had to pay 5 diamonds a week to keep a realm, all the realm's diamonds would be gone in a matter of months. Diamonds can be used for better things than rent.

D is probably what I would choose. It is actually quite easy to get over 100x100, but if there is gonna be a new system, then I'm not sure.
If you aren't to find at least 1 person able to commit to working on a realm every few days, you probably don't deserve to have a realm in the first place.

It isn't impossible to find 60-100 diamonds. It just takes time. That kind of plays in to the whole, "realms are a privelege" thing. Again, if you can't commit more than 10 minutes a week to working on it, you don't deserve a realm.

I understand your beef with having diamonds as rent. We would uhh... run out sooner or later.



Obviously you people will love whatever is the cheapest solution, so me even asking for your opinions is totally useless. Still, I like to see what method would be the most appreciated.
By snitalvixzon
#12213
Bonejunky wrote:
dragoncrystal24 wrote:I think many people in this are not getting it. Panthers and Intelli seem to be the only ones who are fully understanding this, possibly Lightbulbs as well. Also me and Bonejunky fully understand this as well. I'm going to caps it and put it in big red letters so you all can see it:

YOU DO NOT NEED TO MAKE A REALM

Fixed.

Of course I understand this but, if I want my creations and items safe and sound, I would want a realm so it cannot be expanded over and my 9 million and a half diamonds don't get stolen.

And, Light, why do you still post here if you are banned? Is it to give good advice or to troll Cats? Lol.
If you have 9 million diamonds....why not make a realm?
By Kress91
#12220
Lightbulbs wrote:
Agospy wrote: And my biggest problem is, yes, only the privileged will have realms. Only people who have the time to devote hours to the game, will be able to found a realm.
That's how it should be. Realms are something special for the cities that don't suck.
I guess you won't have a realm then, huh, Light?

While I'm a bit ashamed of my realmmates whining over sixty diamonds (currently at 520ish), this whole debate on sixty diamonds is silly. It costs money to found a city in real life, so just consider it a blanket of of realism.
By GB6801
#12222
I am completely fine with everything Intelli has said so far. I especially agree with the 60 diamond fee. Here's why.

Today, I was bored. I warped to my realm only to realize that I had been kicked out for the 10th or so time. The reason I was kicked out was because of an act I did outside of minerealm (I won't go into the details except that it wasn't my fault.) Anyways, I was mad that I had been kicked out of my realm again so I figured the leaders of my ex-realm deserved to be punished. I went as close as possible to the realm and created a new realm called: I ruin Everything for "Ridgeford" after I created this monstrosity, I decided to turn on tnt and pvp. I blew up some small portions of the realm for maybe 5-10 minutes, got bored and left. Looking at the rankings, by placing a few blocks to get out of large tnt craters, my realm was already ahead of 4 other realms. This is why we need only the elite to be able to have the ability to construct realms. I am probably going to disband the realm immediately but there are still other "nothing" realms out there made by people who are banned, left the server or just stay out of their realm. That is why I think that the fee should remain in place. If you are still reading this, I applaud your attention span.
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