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By Keyhen
#12116
1) I agree withy Emerin, it should be more like a party of two or three, just to make sure that we can have small realms. Plus, with 6 players to make one realm, soon enough, the larger realms will start to impose their will over adventurers and hermits.

2) A 60 diamond fee to make a realm. Wow. Truthfully thats all i can say, diamonds will take a while to find, so the server will be without realms for almost a month depending on how fast people work, unless of course you somehow plan to move peoples stuff over.

3) i would prefer /realm warp, it allows easy access to your realm and home/spawn, but removing it would make a adventurly... thing. But a good reason to keep it is:

ex. Your in a realm, all the nearby caves have been plundered. The leader asks you to go out and get more materials (gold, iron, diamond). You find a good cave, and start mining. You need some more things from the realm, but theres no way to get back because you have your home at the cave. It would take a while to get back to the realm with the priceless materials, you could die in the wilderness, and stuff get stolen. end of story.

This was just an example, so dont flame me about it.
By panthers17nfl
#12118
You guys are acting like without a realm, you are completely defenseless against griefers. This couldn't be further from the truth.

Back in the old days, we would do this thing called STFAFS, which translates to Stay The Flapjack Away From Spawn. The further you are from spawn, the much less likely you are to be victim of a griefing incident. There are many ways to protect your belongings without having a realm. In example: I dealt with a player on Creative who built her house 30 blocks away from spawn, and was freaking out when 10 people were dancing on her patio. Do you think the same thing would have happened had she built her house 1,000-2,000 blocks from spawn? Probably not.

I'll be honest: Those of you that are opposed to the 60 diamond, 6 player thing, are obviously those 3 player realms that like to have fun. I get that. But understand that the direction realms are going in is for more of a legitimate, organized conglomeration of players. One reason for this is to greatly, and I mean GREATLY, maybe as much as 90%, reduce the amount of realms we see in game. Why are so many realms a problem? Because they are everywhere, a plague to the world map. Realms, in my opinion, should be special places of grandeur, such as cities. In 3.0, the very fact that you own a realm is a symbol of great prestige.

Not everybody will have the privelege to own a realm. Those who are rich and friends of the community will find it easy to establish realms. Those who are hermits and do nothing but tend to their Wheat crops may have more difficulty. Don't be upset about the 60 diamond thing, please. It is put in place to keep from jamokes building these nothing 50x50 realms (no offense if there are any awesome 50x50's out there >>) that serve no purpose other than to clog up the map. The changes put in place will make realms a special thing, which is definitely the direction I'd like to see it go in.

And for the record: You don't need 60 diamonds to BE in the realm, just to create it. I'm pretty sure some of the trusted, friendly players on this server will find it easy nestling their poor, freeloading as- I MEAN UM- their great personalities into other player's realms.
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By savesthedazed
#12120
panthers17nfl wrote: And for the record: You don't need 60 diamonds to BE in the realm, just to create it. I'm pretty sure some of the trusted, friendly players on this server will find it easy nestling their poor, freeloading as- I MEAN UM- their great personalities into other player's realms.
Go ahead Panthers. You can just use my name. :p

But yeah, I'm liking the where realms are heading. Fewer tiny realms will make exploring much easier and cut back on all the idiots who make realms like "P***s Jackers" and whatnot.
By Emerindyl
#12121
panthers17nfl wrote:I'll be honest: Those of you that are opposed to the 60 diamond, 6 player thing, are obviously those 3 player realms that like to have fun. I get that. But understand that the direction realms are going in is for more of a legitimate, organized conglomeration of players. One reason for this is to greatly, and I mean GREATLY, maybe as much as 90%, reduce the amount of realms we see in game. Why are so many realms a problem? Because they are everywhere, a plague to the world map. Realms, in my opinion, should be special places of grandeur, such as cities. In 3.0, the very fact that you own a realm is a symbol of great prestige.

Not everybody will have the privelege to own a realm. Those who are rich and friends of the community will find it easy to establish realms. Those who are hermits and do nothing but tend to their Wheat crops may have more difficulty. Don't be upset about the 60 diamond thing, please. It is put in place to keep from jamokes building these nothing 50x50 realms (no offense if there are any awesome 50x50's out there >>) that serve no purpose other than to clog up the map. The changes put in place will make realms a special thing, which is definitely the direction I'd like to see it go in.
I dont think disallowing everyone as a blanket from creating a realm with less than six members is the answer though. You want to stop all of these little realms? Then why not have a time limit on how long you are allowed to remain small. If a realm doesnt expand past 100x100 within an alloted time, then the realm is disbanded.

I have been playing for a little under two months. I have a 210x210 realm that is almost at the next level, I have four realm members but I am the most active. I feel as if these changes will mean that I wont have the right to enjoy myself, and build my own realm as I do now.
By baffu
#12127
Hello No!
60 Diamonds is outrageous!
I know its to create less small realms but I think it is not a good idea.
I personally am in a realm with 10 of my friends but to have to pay 60 diamonds is stupid!
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By Cogohst
#12129
baffu wrote:Hello No!
60 Diamonds is outrageous!
I know its to create less small realms but I think it is not a good idea.
I personally am in a realm with 10 of my friends 1 but to have to pay 60 diamonds is stupid!
I can personally mine a stack of diamond in about 1.5 hours. Divide that time by six, and you can have a realm, a shovel, and a pick in about fifteen minutes. Of course, we'll be starting from scratch here, so add another ten on to find a location, grab materials, and hit diamond level. That comes to 25 minutes. There are bound to be complications when dealing with any amount of people, so put an extra ten for the idiot who dropped himself in lava running away from a scary block of cobble. It all adds up to 35 minutes, barely longer than your standard time-sucking television program.
By baffu
#12131
Still 60 diamonds is a bit steep for a realm. I agree its doable but maybe it could be lowered a bit. I donated to minerealm because i loved the realms system as it allowed me to play with my friends with little worries of greifing and things like that. This new price is a bit stupid.

Edit: I could deal with the idea but I just don't like it because there is no way to protect my house and chests until I have 60 diamonds!
Last edited by baffu on Sun May 15, 2011 7:50 am, edited 1 time in total.
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By Cogohst
#12132
Th3Guy wrote:You can also trade.
Most people want to immediately go out and make a realm, leaving few to buy from on the first day. It'll be at least a week before things cool down enough for those pesky hermits to let go of their shiny diamond.

baffu wrote:Still 60 diamonds is a bit steep for a realm. I agree its doable but maybe it could be lowered a bit. I donated to minerealm because i loved the realms system as it allowed me to play with my friends with little worries of greifing and things like that. This new price is a bit stupid.
Haven't you been playing since creative? Something besides the realm system have made you stay, and that is probably still there. Like it or not, we have a good community. We have trolls, lurkers, boisterous loud-mouths, and level-headed mods. The realm system makes us a good server, but the community makes us great.
By Th3Guy
#12133
Cogohst wrote:It'll be at least a week before things cool down enough for those pesky hermits to let go of their shiny diamond.
Yeah thats prob true.
baffu wrote: I could deal with the idea but I just don't like it because there is no way to protect my house and chests until I have 60 diamonds!
Why not build your house after.
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