[Quentijn]

If I was harassed like Intelli was I'd probably ban the entire faction.

It's pretty down right douchey to do something like that to Intelli... I don't know the full story but you've got to be pretty immature to harass someone like that.

So banning people who weren't on at the time, not had anything to do with this should be banned? Tell me how that ain't douchy

[Kress-91]

Intelli banned Ramien for associating with Lightbulbs, after Lightbulbs originally acquired the dox and used them for harassment. Lightbulbs was the villain, but Intelli rapidly became one as he banned everyone associated with Light's, and now with me.

Now the dox are even MORE spread than before. He actually spends about a hundred bucks a month trying to keep those encrypted on his websites, but that's easily bypassed. He really should just save that cash =\

I can't confirm or deny how NTC's been acting on the server. I can say they haven't been rowdy in Mumble, however, until Snow got banned, then b3ast. That's when the poop hit the fan.

LM, there shouldn't even be a NEED for appeals for some of these people in the first place. We both know Dan's just gonna reject them, just like he did with Kyle and Ramien. He likes public spectacles that make others look bad. He always has. This is all a crock of crap to just try and erase my existence, and it's rather unnecessary.

[Lm108]

Well ya maybe some people didn't quite deserve a banning, but oh well. Seriously, if you quickly explain in a ban appeal that your not associated with NTC and you had nothing to do with this fiasco then you'd have a good chance at returning. Kress you've broken every rule on our server probably twice, your opinion has no weight. Leave.

[Kress-91]

Well ya maybe some people didn't quite deserve a banning, but oh well. Seriously, if you quickly explain in a ban appeal that your not associated with NTC and you had nothing to do with this fiasco then you'd have a good chance at returning. Kress you've broken every rule on our server probably twice, your opinion has no weight. Leave.

Probably thrice.

An opinion is still valid, LM, whether you like to hear it or not. It's like saying someone who did drugs can't preach, in a way. You're discounting valid points simply because of where they're coming from. You're supposed to be the head admin, and as such you should be making fair and just bans. Not sweeping executions of entire factions. Whether you like me or not, think of what I'm saying here.

[Agentred]

If I was harassed like Intelli was I'd probably ban the entire faction.

It's pretty down right douchey to do something like that to Intelli... I don't know the full story but you've got to be pretty immature to harass someone like that.

So banning people who weren't on at the time, not had anything to do with this should be banned? Tell me how that ain't douchy

I'm not saying you deserved to be banned at all, Quent, although I am saying it's not overreacting to ban the entire faction. They are obviously telling you guys you can appeal the ban.

This reminds me of when a teacher would hold a class after the bell because one kid is mis-behaving.

He likes public spectacles that make others look bad. He always has. This is all a crock of crap to just try and erase my existence, and it's rather unnecessary.

It's not totally outrageous to ban people who create drama like this.

[Lm108]

Hmm okay solid point. Still though, this is being blown way out of proportion. You guys are convinced there is some conspiracy, but truly, we're just trying to keep the server running without hiccups or troublesome people. It's really very simple.

[Kress-91]

Granted, and I can respect that. Oddly enough, I'm the troublesome one, and I've been dealt with. You've created a mountain out of an already diminishing molehill. This could all just be avoided, and I'd disappear as we all agreed for me to, if we just pretended this entire event never happened =\

[someonee]

Well ya maybe some people didn't quite deserve a banning, but oh well. Seriously, if you quickly explain in a ban appeal that your not associated with NTC and you had nothing to do with this fiasco then you'd have a good chance at returning. Kress you've broken every rule on our server probably twice, your opinion has no weight. Leave.

See, Lm, the problem with that is, I'm NTC, and I'm proud to be it. I had nothing to do with these things, but you banned me anyway. The problem lies with you. Not the people that did nothing. If you unban people who didn't do anything, you can't even call the faction NTC anymore, as 2 of the 3 leaders are banned. I would be the only leader left, and would most likely create something new. But, for me to completely deny anything to do with NTC, that's just douchy like the server's owner. Perma ban me. Perma ban my forum account. IP ban me. Firewall me. Do whatever you want. The server's as corrupt as Kress' mind (no offense ofc) I'm not denying that I'm NTC. I will be NTC for the rest of my life, when I'm old and frail, and have moved on to other things in life besides a video game.

This last message is for Shamp.

Shamp, you're a complete douche and you know it. You were in mumble for HOURS with us. You know that minerealm resembles a dead deer on the side of a rarely used country road. You know we're not how we're made out to be right now. Because I had fun on mumble and creative minerealm with you, you agree with the admins decision to ban all of us? Have you lost your vulcan mind!? /sarcasm You have really let all of us down. We thought you were a cool, relaxed guy that had SOME sense of decency. Guess we were wrong. Oh, and we want that 350k worth of Precious Stones on Killion back. Thanks.

-A very pissed off someonee.

[Quentijn]

Hmm okay solid point. Still though, this is being blown way out of proportion. You guys are convinced there is some conspiracy, but truly, we're just trying to keep the server running without hiccups or troublesome people. It's really very simple.

If you want that I suggest you start with banning your Staff, bs server cbfa with this anymore

[_b3ast_]

Lm, it's not about simply making an appeal to get unbanned. Being one of the founders of NTC, I can't give the clan up... Even if I did, it would still remain the same with the same members. At least let us keep our name if we were not involved to any extent...