[Seratias]

Edit: game developers have been complaining for quite some time about second hand game shops making money from selling on games and they don't see a penny of it, microsoft are the first to make the step forward sony will follow in the future.

Sony was confident enough that they will stick to their policy that they specifically, clearly stated that PS4 will not restrict used games. To make a statement like that, you'd better be 100% confident that you aren't going to retract it. If Sony ever plans on following Microsoft's lead, I think it wouldn't be until the next generation of consoles, and who knows what the landscape of the gaming/console market will look like then.

true they will probably not adjust this during the current generation, but developers are pushing for less games to be sold second hand, so I think sony will follow suit on what microsoft has done. I would not be surprised if the next generation is like steam, where you download your games no more discs.

Microsoft and sony have to keep game developers happy or they will not make games for their console, microsoft have taken a leap forward into keeping developers happy by giving them the option to opt in or out of the used game policy.

Though I haven't ever owned a console or any other game than MC, I'm going to throw my 2 cents in on the 'keeping developers happy' part.
Keeping the developers happy at the expense of gamer satisfaction is not a good marketing choice. The consumers define the market and decide what they want, the vendors do not (at least in principle) play a large part in defining it. Though their relationship is mutual, the consumers have the upper hand in defining the market. The developers (vendors) adapt to the situation, while the gamers (consumers) define it. I can't imagine Sony following XBox's lead until the gaming community decide they want to lose many benefits they took for granted up until now, and human psychology tells me that won't happen quickly (people generally enjoy a sense of continuity).

[Ratta237]

Look how HARD it is to lend games to your friends on the PS4:
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[TechnoProdigy]

Backwards Compatability - Xbox's excuse has always been it cost more money to do such a thing, well PS4 is cheaper than the PS3 was at launch and has it so.... What's the excuse now?

It's a different architecture. Unless they included a non x86 CPU, it's not exactly possible to make it backwards compatible (From what I understand). Adding said additional CPU would likely add another $100 to the cost.

[mitchie151]

Backwards Compatability - Xbox's excuse has always been it cost more money to do such a thing, well PS4 is cheaper than the PS3 was at launch and has it so.... What's the excuse now?

It's a different architecture. Unless they included a non x86 CPU, it's not exactly possible to make it backwards compatible (From what I understand). Adding said additional CPU would likely add another $100 to the cost.

PS4 has the same issue, but they are going to use a cloud service, Gaikai I believe, to allow its users to stream previous generation games. It will probably come at a small subscription cost, but it may be included in the PS+ price.

People are also beginning to see how much more you get for PS+. It's something like 18 free games compared to XBL's measly 2. I've been an XBL subscriber for years but if I get a next gen console it's PS4 at this point.

[nightmarelord11]

Look how HARD it is to lend games to your friends on the PS4:
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[Soul K]

I was thinking about the xbox one for the kenitic but after reading about Microsofts lockdown on the xbox its obvious the PS4 is alot better to get.

I may pre-order it or wait for opening day but pre-ordering sounds better so I know I'll get one rather then maybe.

[Wormoxide]

So today at E3, Sony finally revealed the PS4.

What i want to know is what do you guys think?

If it actually looks like that it has my vote... PS3 is a curvy eyesore... plus how I am going to set down my miso soup on something that is all curvy? Looks like they changes some ergonomics of the controller... a mistake if you ask me. No point in fixing something that people have become accustomed too, but I would not be surprised if older controllers will work with the system.

FYI: I would obviously never place something on electrical hardware... the point is that jigsaw piece of a PS3 does not stack... with anything. I am a form of function fellow... if its not aesthetically pleasing get it off my lawn!

[Rick]

I haven't owned a Playstation for 10 years now, so getting used to the analog sticks is going to be difficult. xD

-Rick

[Rokkrwolf]

[Unbound]

PS4 wins.