[FlannyFlan]

So Ninja finally posted the real pic of himself. Grats on the man up moment.

Granted I thought you were calling someone elses typos out. I had a million directions to respond to, and didnt take the time to read you lal over twice. But also note I never called you a thing. You just love doing so, so you made it up and again in your last post jumped at the opportunity to do it again. Which is legit, be all you can be. It was really just a statement against anyone (and I see it in these forums all the time) who feels it legit to try and diminish the value of anothers comments by pointing out typos and errors of grammar...like it has anything to do with the conversation and isnt a complete derailment.

It has been said by me and others "I wouldnt touch a 'tax on topper' bid thread with someone elses 30 foot pole. So ya we dont have to buy from those we dont want to (enless they have a corner COUGH COUGH COUGH)

But yet I have not seen one argument stating any positive variable of the 'tax on topper' besides the 'kill inflation' argument. Which sounds to me like an evasion of server mechanics. Like it has been said before, IRL, as you like to put it, WOULD HAVE YOUR (REAR ENDS) IN JAIL SO FAST...that it would actually be really really funny that you thought you knew what the hell you were doing.

"Yup. Definitely like Anarchaos." sad....really really &^%*ing sad, and I was about to like your comment too. I feel so TORN!

I think at this point you are just typing to honestly, boost your post count. so i have one last thing to say to you.

Prove us wrong.

[Ninjalo]

So Ninja finally posted the real pic of himself. Grats on the man up moment.

. . .

[cdisme]

Please, I am this thread. It feels very 99% vs 1% to me. Good fun times If I have ever had them. And in just about every post I have stated my views on 'tax on top'...again I am this thread. Who the hell do you think you are kidding?

Another blatant lie for this thread to absorb. I would say the farthest out of the circle and only boosting his post count (which is a stupid thing to be proud of, OMG I HAVE NO LIFE OUTSIDE THESE FORUMS YEAH ME~!!!!) is and in almsot every thread he is in is Ninja, funny as all those jpeg edits and gif animations and stalking for my skin is...its nothing but derail.

Again anyone else? Here all night, working, got my dinner all finished up. Lets see anymore half-baked arguments for why they should be allowed to avoid server mechanics of trade and in turn inflate prices over market value. Not to mention the redundant task of additional trade steps on behalf of the buyer.

[Exekiel]

Anyways, Let's just remove the 10% server tax while we're at it!

You are the only person who has even implied this, and we're not trying to get rid of the 10% server tax, we're trying to get rid of the extra 10% tax you are putting on top of it.

TL:DR? - Stop crying about paying a little more money.

Like I said I have no issue with paying the extra 10 % you want. its just the annoying and inconvenient way you're going about it that is the issue at hand.

[Ninjalo]

-cut-

Like I said I have no issue with paying the extra 10 % you want. its just the dishonest, annoying and inconvenient way you're going about it that is the issue at hand.

And?

[FlannyFlan]

Like I said I have no issue with paying the extra 10 % you want. its just the dishonest, annoying and inconvenient way you're going about it that is the issue at hand.

He had asteriks after the min bid, and the final buyout. It's not HIS fault, that you can't be bothered to notice them, and read the fine print. It's going to be a sad day when you have to start signing things, and cant be bothered to read the fine print, because it's going to bite you in the ass. It was there, he wasn't hiding it. Now, if you won it, and there as no indication of you having to pay said tax, then when it came time for you to pay, if ninjalo asked for tax, THAT would be dishonest.

Also, this proves this:

I like how you made this LONG RANT (because that's what it is) after on Ninjalo's Emerald Ore auction, he refused to abide by a guideline that YOU, NOT STAFF, made. If anything this is a raging post about you not wanting to pay tax on an auction that you honestly didn't have to bid on. Please, go somewhere else and cry. Tornadic is bidding just fine and isn't whining and complaining like you are. If anything, this is a personal attack on Ninjalo due to him refusing your bid after not following, what were they again? Player suggested guidelines, not staff rules.

His "dishonest and annoying" auction is what made you post this thread. It's nothing more than a rant to try to make Ninjalo look bad. Please, if you're going to try to nonchalantly make a thread complaining about someone's sales, don't make it so obvious like you just did. That you know, kind of gets rid of the subtleness of the thread, and turns into ranting and raving post about "not being fair". Of course, that's what it was actually intended to be, was it not?

[Ninjalo]

Like I said I have no issue with paying the extra 10 % you want. its just the dishonest, annoying and inconvenient way you're going about it that is the issue at hand.

He had asteriks after the min bid, and the final buyout. It's not HIS fault, that you can't be bothered to notice them, and read the fine print. It's going to be a sad day when you have to start signing things, and cant be bothered to read the fine print, because it's going to bite you in the ass. It was there, he wasn't hiding it. Now, if you won it, and there as no indication of you having to pay said tax, then when it came time for you to pay, if ninjalo asked for tax, THAT would be dishonest.

Also, this proves this:

I like how you made this LONG RANT (because that's what it is) after on Ninjalo's Emerald Ore auction, he refused to abide by a guideline that YOU, NOT STAFF, made. If anything this is a raging post about you not wanting to pay tax on an auction that you honestly didn't have to bid on. Please, go somewhere else and cry. Tornadic is bidding just fine and isn't whining and complaining like you are. If anything, this is a personal attack on Ninjalo due to him refusing your bid after not following, what were they again? Player suggested guidelines, not staff rules.

His "dishonest and annoying" auction is what made you post this thread. It's nothing more than a rant to try to make Ninjalo look bad. Please, if you're going to try to nonchalantly make a thread complaining about someone's sales, don't make it so obvious like you just did. That you know, kind of gets rid of the subtleness of the thread, and turns into ranting and raving post about "not being fair". Of course, that's what it was actually intended to be, was it not?

[cdisme]

Ya sorry, little gif creator. But I actually don't take orders from faceless, insecure asians. Or just about anyone for that matter. Way to try and directly attack individuals with your 'humor' instead of making one single point worth merit.

This is it folks, no one is making any new points so here is the boil down.

-It should be the responsibility of the seller to ensure fast, easy, uncomplicated trade for noobs and vets alike.
-Final price should be set by the seller, accounting for 'tax losses' or not, the buyer should still get a clear and definitive FINAL PRICE.
-This should also be reflected in bid threads. IE: increase starting bids and bid increments to reflect the value you hold on your trade.
-10k should always be 10k and the seller should have to eat the tax (10% of 10k = 1k)

Doing so ensures that the server mechanics in place already to hinder inflation do their job. And little to know confusion when the time comes to trade.

I would think it to be a no brainer to add one step to the seller (only if he has to see numbers a specific way and hates the word TAX, otherwise this is a non-step never taken as most SMART people just put a price and call it a day and let the server do its thing) instead of an additional step(s) on any purposed buyers. They are giving the money, you are just selling something, maybe you should do the work considering you are getting paid in the end. But clearly, there are far too many that benefit on this server from doing 'tax on top' and confusing the market (noob or vet) and they have have far too many cheerleaders to have a real conversation about it.


ADDITION: doesnt ninja already look bad to most on the server? Or is that just me? I dont see anything constructive ever come from him, its all jokes jokes jokes, black people are funny, and forum trolling (for his post count). This poll (IMO) is to make all 'tax on topers' look bad, because they should. Its a scam, no other word for it. Otherwise, whats the point in THE EXTRA STEPS!? Never seen an answer why we are adding steps to trade. Not one. Again another gif and nothing constructive, what a surprise.

[Ninjalo]

Ya sorry, little gif creator. But I actually don't take orders from faceless, insecure asians.

HOW DARE YOU. I find this 100% offensive. I don't know how your mother raised you, but this is disrespectful. Congratulations on gaining nothing, but hurting my feelings. Good day to you sir.

[cdisme]

lawl ok joker, cry wolf more
hey look....
Lyrics:

What is this weird show?
It's like the only thing you know
You talk about it every day
You know this is child's play

Your path ahead is blurred
Told to go join in on the herd
You know this show's for younger crowds?
How can you say you're proud?

Now think, brony, think
Everything in here is pink
You've spent your precious time
Now you're walking a fine line!

And then you have the nerve
To ask me to observe
These girly things
You open your mouth and sing...

(Chorus:)
Ponies aren't just for girls
Let this tail unfurl
Twilight Sparkle, Pinkie Pie
Applejack and Fluttershy
Do not be afraid
We will never fade
Rainbow Dash and Rarity
Join the herd, and you will see!


Hey this show's not bad
I'll give it to ya, I'm real glad
I never thought I'd like this stuff
I thought I was just too tough

I'm sorry I was rude
I feel happy and renewed
And even though I feel naive
I find it hard to leave

So thanks, brony, thanks
My mind was shooting blanks
I feel like such a fool
Who knew ponies were this cool?

Now wait for Saturday
For the show to play
What will it bring?
We open our mouths and sing

Join. The. Herd.

(Chorus)

So thanks, brony, thanks
Looks like I've joined your ranks
I never could repay
What you've done for me today

Hey thanks, brony thanks,
Looks like I've joined your rank
I never could repay—

(Chorus x 2)

I can as pointless as you.
Sorry i know this all derail, but Im sure the points that are going to be made have been made.