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I went into the nether, and my diamond sword was on my number 1 in weapon switch, and a stone sword in number 2. As you know, entering a portal makes u select whatever item is in the first slot. As soon as I entered, I switched back to slot 2, so my stone sword (this is my strategy for making my opponents underestimate my firepower). I checked behind me, saw nobody was hiding behind the portal, and started to send a quick "/p i'm here". 3 seconds later, Kress91 killed me. Kress91 claims that he/ she killed me because they "feared" I was going to camp/ kill them at the portal. This is not true, as I had just come through the portal, then looked behind it to make sure nobody was sneaking up on me from the other side. I saw it was safe, and began to type while in the portal room. As I'm typing, Kress91 appears in the portal, walks to me, looks at me for about half a second, then kills me.

Kress91 went further to rationalize his/ her killing by saying I was going to portal camp him/ her. Kress91 was telling everyone how I was standing with a diamond sword, ready to attack him/ her. This is clearly untrue as can be seen in the screenshot, at the time I was holding my stone sword. As Kress91 entered the nether, I aborted my message, and watched as Kress91 walked up to me, and half a second later killed me.

If you think someone will kill you as soon as you come through the portal, jsut because they happen to be standing there facing your direction, just let them, screenshot it, and get them banned. Fear of being portal camped is not an acceptable explanation of portal killing yourself. If you do do it by some impulse to the shock of seeing someone (it can happen to anyone), atleast have the decency to apologize/ return the items to the person you caused grief to.

As I understand there is to be no PVP in the portal room, within reasonable limits. The point is don't abuse people who just came into the nether, and are trying to get their bearings straight (thus causing them grief). If you are pvp'ing someone, and they run into the room, I think it is fair to continue the fight, as this is no "magical safe land". The rule just means not to cause someone grief by killing them once they enter the nether before they can even realize what is going on and make a chance how to act. IMO, it is acceptable to kill people who clearly are trying to abuse this rule, by doing stupid things like running out, hitting, then going back. Or acting like a smart-ass and taunting people.

I made this forum post to discuss the incident, I don't want to turn this into a ban request, because it would just waste everyone's time. I want Kress91 to admit to killing me in the portal in a dishonest way. I asked ingame for Kress91 to just return my diamond sword, and not do it again, and in return this wouldn't go any further than the game. But Kress91 was very persistent and claimed there was nothing wrong with killing me there (an made false accusations about me holding a diamond sword, but that can be a acceptable, since it was clearly stressful for Kress91). So I made this post to try to create a clear set of rules when it is/ isn't fair to kill someone in the nether. So please discuss the incident!

LM108 already said no harm was done.

I arrived in the Nether. armed and ready for possible camping cause we were in a battle and I was a returning fighter. I arrived to see Physaux staring at me, at the portal, with his sword drawn.

All in self defense. I'm not gonna stand idly by with a known enemy staring right at me as I just arrive from the portal.

Also.

Intelli wrote: Camping / killing an innocent victim, as soon as they enter the Nether, causes grief to that player and isn't respectful of that player. Unless of course, they're obviously looking for a fight (ex: have a sword).

All signs point to a camper holding a sword.

Now let it die, and stop trying to stir up trouble just 'cause they killed you.

I see you holding a sword, with a diamond sword in your inventory.

You were obviously PVP'ing.

Stop crying.

Ofc I was pvping, the point is that Kress91 killed me in the portal room. It is against the general consensus to kill someone in the portal room.

Knowing that, I watched as Kress91 came in, and I chose not to attack. I was following the customs and "rules", and then Kress91 killed me in an unacceptable way, and is trying to rationalize the decision.

Also Kress91 is trying to discredit my complaint by claiming "stop whining I was pvp'ing"

It's a matter of principle, and Kress91 broke the rule. I'm very tempted to post a ban request about the matter, because clearly Kress91 is still being a smart ass and thinks this behaviour is acceptable. Nobody else does this.

Enemies often stand side by side in the portal room and don't attack eachother there. Some people have respect for the rules.

So by Kress91's rationalization, I can kill anyone I see once I enter the Nether, even if they are just standing in the portal room (1-2 blocks form portal, because they are trying to get their bearings straight seconds after coming in)? Obviously not. I'd get banned. So the least Kress91 should do is apologize, return the diamond sword, and not do this again.

It's a matter of principle, this is a player who knows the rules, and choses to push them as far as possible/ break them with no respect for other people, causing problems to others who chose to respect the rules (and thus gets a PVP advantage against them), and then complains when his/her actions are confronted.

Unacceptable to YOU.

Acceptable to most most other PVPer's.

Your fault for standing still in the nether portal room. AFKers are always kill fodder.

I'm being far from a smarty.

I'm laying down several facts for you, Physaux.

LM strictly said let it drop.

Intelli has said if you're holding a sword, expect to die.

You were standing in the spawn portal room, a commonly camped room, while holding not one, but TWO types of swords. You were staring at me when I arrived, and I instantly started swinging due to the fact a known enemy was staring at me upon arrival with a sword.

Stop making this more of a spectacle than it needs to be (or LM said for it to be).

He claims he was standing still, Fritts, but he was very much moving at the time of arrival ._.

I've been banned enough to know not to make a stupid mistake in PVP.

Kress91 wrote:I'm being far from a smarty.

I'm laying down several facts for you, Physaux.

LM strictly said let it drop.

Intelli has said if you're holding a sword, expect to die.

You were standing in the spawn portal room, a commonly camped room, while holding not one, but TWO types of swords. You were staring at me when I arrived, and I instantly started swinging due to the fact a known enemy was staring at me upon arrival with a sword.

Stop making this more of a spectacle than it needs to be (or LM said for it to be).

He claims he was standing still, Fritts, but he was very much moving at the time of arrival ._.

I've been banned enough to know not to make a stupid mistake in PVP.

LM did not say drop it, stop manipulating the facts. Wanna read the chat logs? Lets pull them up. He said to stop talking about it in chat, which I did. Stop being arrogant and trying to talk your way out of it. Killing someone in the portal room is not acceptable, plain and simple.

And more lies, I was not moving, I was just watching you (moving my cursor to look at you, thus turning my head), so as to make u aware I'm not afk, and will take action if you break the rules and kill me in here.

Also what about the swords? U saw my inventory? Whats with the comment about 2 swords?

How hard is it for all of you pvp'ers not to smack each other around in the portal room?!!?!

This forums and chat fills up with the same rambling about this, when in the portal room don't fight!

Why does this seem to be a hard thing to get your minds around?

Vailure wrote:How hard is it for all of you pvp'ers not to smack each other around in the portal room?!!?!

This forums and chat fills up with the same rambling about this, when in the portal room don't fight!

Why does this seem to be a hard thing to get your minds around?

Exactly, its a shame I have to explain all this, I have all the screenshots, full evidence and story breakdown, and they still argue about it. Well I guess we can just wait and see where this goes, and if a mod/ admin will comment on the matter. This is just one documented case, where I chose to make the effort to report a player who portal kills. It happens all the time, these cheap players think they can just cause grief to people by doing this, thinking they are so clever and "immune" to any consequences. Here they are caught red handed, lets see what happens.

Kress91 wrote:Intelli has said if you're holding a sword, expect to die.

You were standing in the spawn portal room, a commonly camped room, while holding not one, but TWO types of swords. You were staring at me when I arrived, and I instantly started swinging due to the fact a known enemy was staring at me upon arrival with a sword.

Everyone said me that there are no exceptions in nether PvP, so it is just a question of morality.

Stop trying to justify yourself, Kress!

You killed me too, while i was stuck in the portal, with no sword in my hand!