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Today I was Robbed of a lot of stuff.
I dont Know who did this at all.
Whoever Did it stole 30+ diamond 100+ iron 5 lapis lazuli blocks all my gunpowder and gold
and they destroyed my chests!! :evil:

You know all those threads we have discussing security measures? You should check those, and understand and implement their suggestions.

If you can't be bothered to do that, just make sure there is no air around your chests, unless you can actually get your realm private, in which case simply placing a block above the chest will do it.

zer0percent wrote: and they destroyed my chests!! :evil:

People that aren't members of a realm can't smash chests inside that realm.
Either it's an inside job or you're burying chests in the wildy, which means you deserve being robbed.

Lightbulbs wrote:People that aren't members of a realm can't smash chests inside that realm.

Last time I checked, he's in a one-person realm, and it takes more than that to set private.

A wilderness chest (or set, with a large number of decoys) can also be useful, as it takes an actual hack to find properly hidden ones, and there's more wilderness than realm. Have a /home out in the middle of nowhere, away from any realm, and you've got a useful drop point that's NOT telegraphed like a one-man realm, and is also far less vulnerable to backstabbing realm members.

Aelcalan wrote: Last time I checked, he's in a one-person realm, and it takes more than that to set private.

Then adding the detail someone smashed his chest in his realm means the story is complete and utter bullshit.

Aelcalan wrote: A wilderness chest (or set, with a large number of decoys) can also be useful, as it takes an actual hack to find properly hidden ones, and there's more wilderness than realm. Have a /home out in the middle of nowhere, away from any realm, and you've got a useful drop point that's NOT telegraphed like a one-man realm, and is also far less vulnerable to backstabbing realm members.

Leaving a wilderness chest out in the middle of nowhere with no sign saying it's owned by someone = Free to take. Putting a sign above it means that you can find it with a texture pack rather than an actual hack. Hiding in the wildy is basically lose-lose. In short, stop being a loner and get a friend so you don't get stolen from twice a week.

Lightbulbs wrote:Then adding the detail someone smashed his chest in his realm means the story is complete and utter bullshit.

How on earth could that POSSIBLY invalidate his story? It actually makes it fall into line with EXACTLY what you suggest, that is, putting your chests in your realm and relying on the honour system. The only thing he didn't do was put a sign saying "don't steal, griefing iz bad kthx", which would actually serve to mark the place.

Lightbulbs wrote: Leaving a wilderness chest out in the middle of nowhere with no sign saying it's owned by someone = Free to take.

Not so much, as I'm pretty sure that would fall under stealing. I'd grant that it's EASY to get away with, though. Even I would find that tempting.

Lightbulbs wrote:Putting a sign above it means that you can find it with a texture pack rather than an actual hack.

As can everyone else, notably people who'd, y'know, USE A TEXTURE PACK TO FIND AND TAKE IT. The point is to make it EXTREMELY hard to find, not tell them they're being bad by taking your stuff, which they COULDN'T if they can't FIND IT in the first place.

Lightbulbs wrote:Hiding in the wildy is basically lose-lose. In short, stop being a loner and get a friend so you don't get stolen from twice a week.

It's risky, but so is everything short of having a huge realm of skilled players with mutual trust.

TL;DR
Unfindable > properly marked with rules.

why don't you just hide them in the ground.

if they are covered on all sides no one can em, even with a custom texturepack.

Aelcalan wrote: How on earth could that POSSIBLY invalidate his story?

Hurray for clipping out what you said that I was directly responding to! I'm fairly sure you know you're wrong at this point and are just trying to pigeon hole the fact I'm completely correct.

Aelcalan wrote: It actually makes it fall into line with EXACTLY what you suggest, that is, putting your chests in your realm and relying on the honour system.

So you can hide a chest in the wildy put it in plain sight in your realm, but the moment we get to hiding in your realm it becomes too confusing. We need a facepalm icon.

Aelcalan wrote: The only thing he didn't do was put a sign saying "don't steal, griefing iz bad kthx", which would actually serve to mark the place.

Good job parroting what I already said 2 sentences down.

Aelcalan wrote:Not so much, as I'm pretty sure that would fall under stealing. I'd grant that it's EASY to get away with, though. Even I would find that tempting.

Rules 2 & 3
2. Please place a sign on your property, to claim the area.
3. Only build on land that has not been claimed, or that you have permission to build on.
And once again I'm right.

Aelcalan wrote:As can everyone else, notably people who'd, y'know, USE A TEXTURE PACK TO FIND AND TAKE IT. The point is to make it EXTREMELY hard to find, not tell them they're being bad by taking your stuff, which they COULDN'T if they can't FIND IT in the first place.

Do I need subtitles? One pronoun person shift and already "OMFG YOU LOST ME TIME TO MISINTERPRET WHAT I SAID SINCE IT MAKES ME SEEM MORE RIGHT LOLOLOL". I'm beginning to think you that whole theory about you knowing you're wrong is correct.

Aelcalan wrote:It's risky, but so is everything short of having a huge realm of skilled players with mutual trust.

He's been robbed from twice in one week. You are saying it's too risky to trust a single person with realm access, when as of right now the entire realm has access. Wow, the idiocy just boggles my mind.

What I am suggesting, since some people don't seem to have been able to understand:

Have multiple stashes. If you can get your realm private with someone you trust, keep a primary stash there, but secure it as with any other situation. This deals with outsiders fairly well.
Have a stash hidden via similar means elsewhere in your realm, in case you are betrayed.
Have a stash or two of miscellaneous valuables on UNMARKED LAND, far out in the wilderness. No, the land's not yours. Yes, that's a bit dangerous, but that's why it's a dire backup. Nobody gets to know about it, but check it (or them) often, so you know when somebody moves into the area.

With all of these stashes: Keep decoys with SOMETHING in them around. Keep the really good stuff completely covered at all times, with no gaps (foils transparent texture packs). If you're really, truly paranoid, keep the very best on your person when you log out.


Yes, rule 2 states to put a sign on your property, but the point is not to make this your property, it's to have a hiding spot. Signs draw attention, which you don't want. If a mod tells me this is utterly unacceptable, I'll alter my advice, but only on this one aspect. In the mean time? Risk reduction/management.

Also, I don't really want to point-by-point refute Lightbulbs again, but if he makes more noise about it, I'll do so.

TL;DR
Hiding, it works.

zer0percent wrote:Today I was Robbed of a lot of stuff.
I dont Know who did this at all.
Whoever Did it stole 30+ diamond 100+ iron 5 lapis lazuli blocks all my gunpowder and gold
and they destroyed my chests!! :evil:

Hey buddy,

I had the same thing happen to me. My chests were well hidden within my realm and I THINK someone used a texture pack to find them. I'm sorry your situation and understand how you feel. Find a way to make you realm private or join another realm and make that one private, this is the best advice i can give you. I know its sucks that your hard work is for nothing when someone steals it.

BTW if you wanna realm that is private and trust worthy, feel free you join mine. No visitors, just 2 people and plenty of space to build.