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When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:41 pm
by RYPMANV
A couple of us have been regularly upgrading "Blaze Spawners" in the Nether for the benefit of everyone in the community to use. One particular spawner seems to have become a favorite "safe haven" for blind sniping and general excuse for rude behavior and repetitive harassment.

While I agree the Nether is "open ground" - it seems to be a bit of a dichotomy for it to be "bannable" to grief the subway - and yet when someone repeatedly dismantles and breaks down a structure built to benefit everyone, its considered "legal play"....

The primary issue has been, we've been reinforcing walls of the spawner with Obsidian blocks, both to protect the occupents from harassment, and to make them Ghast resistant. One individual seems to take great joy out of defacing the structures on a regular basis, and flaunting that he can get away with it because "technically its legal." I believe a couple of staff had already asked him politely not to do it, but he's done it again today.

Since he seems so proud of his vandalizing and harassment, and posts signs with his "I looted the stuff, and its legal lootable blocks, and heres my sig" I won't refrain from naming him. Frostybirth seems to have taken to looting the obsidian because "technically its a lootable block" - and replacing it with wood - which Ghasts can destroy in one blast. So really, we're to believe that he has such a hard time finding obsidian that he has to steal it from structures in the Nether??

This has happened several times, its a repeated behavior, and there is no real point to it other than to be difficult and harass others. From the second hand accounts that have been related to me, I believe the behavior started because he was fond of using the spot as a place to invis and snipe other players, the efforts to fortify the structures just ticked him off, so he started looting the blocks to be "difficult" and "in your face" with the whole "look at what I can do" attitude. And using destructable blocks to replace the obsidian definitely defaces the structures utility and purpose....

If the reasoning is otherwise, I'd love to hear it.... At this point I think its the intent of the behavior that speaks clearly for what it is...

So I have to ask the Staff and Intelli --- When does this behavior get called what it is, Harassment?

Is Obsidian sooooo hard to come by that you really have to steal it from buildings? Thats a pretty lame excuse I think, since Obsidian blocks can be generated with lava and water, so its not like they're rare.....

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:47 pm
by dlgn
Ranting is bad.

That said, ghast fireballs don't do damage on MineRealm, making this practically pointless.

~dlgn

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:48 pm
by cubeguy314
Just use cobblestone or stone brick. Ghasts can't break those.

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 8:59 pm
by kerovon
If it happens continuously, and it becomes apparent that the reason why frosty is taking the obsidian is not because he wants it, but because he wants to harass you, then staff can possibly look into it being harassment.

That being said, you might want to go over to suggestions, and make a suggestion to have obsidian be removed from the valuable block list in the nether/wild.

dlgn wrote: That said, ghast fireballs don't do damage on MineRealm, making this practically pointless.
~dlgn
Actually, explosions are enabled in the nether, and ghast fireballs do damage.

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:22 pm
by FrostyBirth
Wow... You are terribly wrong. I went there because that was the way to the U.N island, and there happens to be wither skeletons that spawn there. I truly don't see where you're getting these ideas, as they don't make any sense. There's more than just Obsidian there, so anyone whom is inside it can still be gotten to, but I haven't been there for a bit. I'm also removing this Obsidian because I can, and to be burnt. It was rolled back when it wasn't supposed to have been. I like how you also never tried to make contact with me before making this thread.

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:27 pm
by kerovon
FrostyBirth wrote:. I'm also removing this Obsidian because I can, and to be burnt.
That would make it harassment. If you continue, you will be banned.

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:38 pm
by FrostyBirth
Burning duped items is harassment?

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:44 pm
by Aelcalan
No, targeted and continual removal of blocks that another player placed is harassment.

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:49 pm
by FrostyBirth
I did not target him. I did not know that he had anything to do with the building.

Re: When does an legal action become harassment?

Posted: Sat Feb 09, 2013 9:50 pm
by TechnoProdigy
FrostyBirth wrote:Burning duped items is harassment?
Duped obsidian? Really? You can make it extremely easily. I doubt anyone would be so desperate that they'd resort to duping it to obtain it.