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FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private realms

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:02 pm
by alexrybicki
FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private realms, so don't go putting valuables in them just yet unless they're behind glass or something.

EDIT: They also may or may not be counting toward the 100 entity limit per realm, I've had a few despawn on me.

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:39 pm
by Prodigy9
Thanks for the heads-up! Hopefully Intelli will be able to do something, but if they're being counted as entities, that may be difficult.

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:02 pm
by mr. roach
I'm confused on what an entity is, and if they are entities, does that mean Intelli won't be able to protect them in private realms?

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:10 pm
by shaddowdemon
mr. roach wrote:I'm confused on what an entity is, and if they are entities, does that mean Intelli won't be able to protect them in private realms?
It mainly differs at a code level. I poked around in the source code, and an item frame is indeed not a block - it has entity and item "entries" though. However, it does differ from an Item Entity, so intuitively, I wouldn't think they would be related in despawning... but I dunno how Intelli has coded it (They are Hanging Entities).

As for protecting them by private realms... Intelli is the only one who can answer that.

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2012 1:42 am
by regisun
yeah, i had all my potions (one of each kind) put in frames on my wall and i decided to get a friend to test whether they were protected. Very shocked when that person managed to break it.

(the awks moment when i was about to put endstone on the outer walls of my house .____.)

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 1:06 am
by Intelli
They are now protected.

Also, topic moved to server discussion.

Edit: Items in item frames may count towards the item limit, which I see no issue with, so use caution :)

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:33 am
by shaddowdemon
Intelli wrote:They are now protected.

Also, topic moved to server discussion.

Edit: Items in item frames may count towards the item limit, which I see no issue with, so use caution :)
Am I correct in assuming that this means the items in the frames can despawn?

Would it be possible to not have them count? If you put an item on display, someone could just go next to it and unload, potentially causing the item to despawn, right? I haven't messed with item frames, but I don't like the idea of my display stuff going "poof" because someone wants to grief. Furthermore, if someone did do such an action, there wouldn't really be an consequences as we wouldn't be able to tell who did it, even though it really shouldn't be allowed.

Basically, with no accountability and no item protection, I wouldn't really want to put stuff in frames. Granted, I probably won't really use them anyway.

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 5:46 am
by Intelli
shaddowdemon wrote:
Intelli wrote:They are now protected.

Also, topic moved to server discussion.

Edit: Items in item frames may count towards the item limit, which I see no issue with, so use caution :)
Am I correct in assuming that this means the items in the frames can despawn?
Tbh, I have no clue. Test it :P

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:06 am
by Ninjalo
Players can still rotate unowned item frame items.

Re: FYI: Item frames are not block protected in private real

Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2012 6:57 am
by shaddowdemon
It seems to be relatively safe. I threw down a bunch of cobble next to my frame and it only despawned the cobble. It looks like it despawned the last items that were thrown down, in which case, the item in the frame should theoretically be safe.