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I was banned today in "the purge" and here's why I think I was falsely caught in the dragnet:

I dig my main mine shafts down to bedrock and make a platform every 3 levels. I dig tunnels diagonally out form the main shaft and then connect these diagonals with straight branches every 4 meters. Thus my mine is effectively a bunch of concentric squares radiating out from the main shaft. It's a great system because I can dig the branches more or less mindlessly and I know when to stop when I hit the opposing diagonal tunnel. I don't collect resources while I dig--I just dig the branches. This is more efficient because my inventory slots aren't taken up by small numbers of items, and it lets me space out while I do it. After I drop off the dirt/cobble/gravel/etc., I come back and quickly loop around my mine collecting the valuable stuff. This is really quickly because the tunnels are dug out, and it's also why I think I was flagged.

I'm a bit of a recluse on the server but am otherwise an upstanding citizen. I like seeing what others have built (but unfortunately I built my realm too far away from spawn so nobody gets to see what I build.) I have attached photos of my primary mine as evidence in my defense, and also some pictures of my realm. My primary mine is around (x: 4300, z: 4700, under the mountain in the photo) if any mods want to check it out for themselves and see that there are no tunnels into blackness as you would see if I were x-raying (and as I saw all too many times when I had a realm near spawn). I'm glad the x-ray hacking is finally being put to a stop. I'm happy to answer any further questions as well.

Thank you for your consideration.

-amitofu

Edit: I would like to point out that it is possible to collect more than 20 diamonds in 5 minutes if you mine the way I do. I apologize for leaving exposed diamond in my mine for later collection and for being overly methodical.

Edit 2: For the incredulous, another reason I often leave diamonds in the walls is because I've lost too damn many diamonds to lava leaks while digging my tunnels. It's safer to collect them after the tunnels are dug. Yeah, I suppose I could go put them in a chest, but I didn't see the point since I go back through my shafts to collect everything else anyway. My mining operation is extremely methodical. It's not like I run around randomly collecting things. I know exactly where to go. My tunnels are concentric squares connected along diagonals so it's really straightforward to spiral around and collect everything.

I'm not suggesting most people mine this way. I know they don't. I do. Everyone else banned today was probably guilty. Inteli's heuristic is a good one. I've been burned by x-ray hackers before. I had a realm nearish to spawn called Nadir. I didn't find a single damn diamond in my whole mine, and there were dark tunnels everywhere. I was so pissed that I left and moved to the edge of the map. I regret moving now because I'm isolated. If there hadn't been so many x-rayers, I wouldn't have been chased away. I'm not even upset about being accidentally caught in the fray. It's just awkward to defend myself. But what I've said is the truth.






(I circle around and remove the torches on each level after I've collected everything so that I can reuse the torches on the next level. The monster spawn rate is slow enough on MineRealm that it doesn't cause mob infestations.)

Appeal Reviewed. We manually inspected your tunnels.

Appeal: Rejected

We are now 100% certain that amitofu is guilty of using x-ray hacks and full-bright.

I stand by every single word I've said in this appeal. My realms are 100% legit. I have few diamonds, no diamond blocks, and no diamond armor. I find enough diamonds to make tools and that's it. And I find those diamonds legitimately in my mines.

I don't know what you found that incriminates me and I take no responsibility for it. But I am, alas, accountable for it. So I accept my punishment and leave.

It doesnt actually look like he did anything wrong. What did you find that he did wrong?

We found narrow, unlit tunnels that were dug by him that weaved around randomly and intersected pockets of ore. These were in diamond mines that were not by the main ones he posted pictures of.

Oh, ok, so, X ray engine just allows you to see resources? This is actually the first time ive actually heard of it.

Does anyone know what happened to my old realms (pictured above)? I just checked out the map and it looks like the farm island was griefed, the castle island appears untouched, and it seems someone built on the mountain that I strip-mined for all that dirt. Were my realms bought by anyone? Or will they be deleted with the map wipe that I gather is happening when 1.9 is released?

I probably should have just confessed to the crimes. But I was angry about the way in which the charges were brought and I was humiliated for being banned. I haven't enjoyed playing Minecraft since. Minerealm is a unique place.

Alas, as much as I hate to admit it, I did x-ray. It was only once and it was right after I discovered tunnels zig-zagging through my own realm. Because it was done to me I felt justified in doing it myself. I installed the mod, wandered into the middle of nowhere so I wouldn't disturb anyone, and took what I felt had been taken from me. I knew everything was logged but I though I had plausible deniability. What I wrote my original ban appeal was the truth--but obviously not the whole truth.

I think I feel the worst for wasting Intelli and the other mods time having to look through the logs and search out those tunnels. It's a testament to them that they gave me the benefit of the doubt. I don't care for cheating at all and I'm glad that there's no longer such a disadvantage for people who don't cheat. I'm terribly sorry that I succumbed and partook in the act. I would never do it again.

And so I humbly ask to be granted clemency for my crimes with time served and the loss of my realms as due punishment. Thank you for your consideration.

amitofu wrote:Does anyone know what happened to my old realms (pictured above)? I just checked out the map and it looks like the farm island was griefed, the castle island appears untouched, and it seems someone built on the mountain that I strip-mined for all that dirt. Were my realms bought by anyone? Or will they be deleted with the map wipe that I gather is happening when 1.9 is released?

I probably should have just confessed to the crimes. But I was angry about the way in which the charges were brought and I was humiliated for being banned. I haven't enjoyed playing Minecraft since. Minerealm is a unique place.

Alas, as much as I hate to admit it, I did x-ray. It was only once and it was right after I discovered tunnels zig-zagging through my own realm. Because it was done to me I felt justified in doing it myself. I installed the mod, wandered into the middle of nowhere so I wouldn't disturb anyone, and took what I felt had been taken from me. I knew everything was logged but I though I had plausible deniability. What I wrote my original ban appeal was the truth--but obviously not the whole truth.

I think I feel the worst for wasting Intelli and the other mods time having to look through the logs and search out those tunnels. It's a testament to them that they gave me the benefit of the doubt. I don't care for cheating at all and I'm glad that there's no longer such a disadvantage for people who don't cheat. I'm terribly sorry that I succumbed and partook in the act. I would never do it again.

And so I humbly ask to be granted clemency for my crimes with time served and the loss of my realms as due punishment. Thank you for your consideration.

Why would you write so much in your own defence on 1st post and then completely admit you cheated a few after... anything you write now will be looked upon as fictional.

you dug your own pit mate.

effexs wrote:you dug your own pit mate.

I was banned months ago. I came back to see what happened to my realms. I have no expectations.

effexs wrote: you dug your own pit mate.

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