dlgn wrote:OrigamiElephant wrote:Uniforms, cell phones checked (left with the instructor) before class, no makeup application during class.
There needs to be a no tolerance policy in place that protects both students and teachers. Teachers overreaching with their authority needs to be reprimanded, as well as students being openly aggressive towards instructors needs to be IMMEDIATELY dealt with. Maybe no so much as punitively, but there needs to be a first offense conference with the teacher as well as the student and their parents.
We have old timey sayings for children like this and that's "Spare the rod, spoil the child"
I don't care what your thoughts are on corporal punishment, you can't argue that introducing measured appropriate pain in punishment situations doesn't literally hardwire a young persons brain to think twice before committing the same offense again.
Kids these days (the crappy ones) aren't held accountable at all for their actions, and it's showing more and more every day.
All kids think when they get physically punished is
"**** that ******* idiot, I'll get revenge on her."
Seriously, it doesn't teach them anything other than that violence is an answer to all problems. Verbal punishment can be just as scorching, although there's usually something wrong if you need to resort to punishment in the first place. I've never found punishment of any sort to be particularly effective (except in very specific instances, usually as some sort of restitution like doing work for someone), but upon receiving physical punishment in particular a child's first thought is to revenge himself/herself upon the humiliation and pain that he/she received.
~dlgn
I'm going to lay it out for you right now, and yes it may seem biased but, this is what I believe. First off, I am 100% against the idea of uniforms and the reason is because, it may or may not take the idea of aggression, agitation, or disliking of a person because of their clothes, but no matter what, when they grow up, it will be exactly the same situation. Everywhere you walk *specifically in the us* you will see clothes of all sorts that can either make people envious or despise a person. Anyways even if everyone wears the same exact uniform and shirt everyday, one way or another a person may be disliked or hated upon because of sexual orientation, personality, or even just because they just don't like them. I think uniforms would only scrape the surface of the problem and really solves nothing because, not everyone wears a uniform when they walk around anywhere. Alright secondly I also want to go back to dlgn's point. Using violence as a tactic to strike fear and force students to cooperate is probably the dumbest thing I have ever heard, because you can cause multiple issues to occur. It could be anger or aggression is the person has a problem, it could be a grudge against the teacher, or it could lead to a super violent and bad situation. Take dlgn and I for example, if you took away our common sense and a teacher were to tick us off, what would hold either of us back from unleashing our skill in martial arts and lash out at the teacher. If anyone here takes martial arts, I would hope that most would be able to intelligently know how to handle it and not use it as a tool of aggression, but in the situation where you take a student like that and he were to just be to enraged to not think properly, they could really inflict pain to the teacher. On top of that, it doesn't even have to be a person trained in martial arts, I could be an angry tall girl that plays lacrosse that would lash out her anger at the teacher, and those teachers that are smaller then her could possibly in harm's way. A student could even pull a knife on the teacher if they were that mad about it. All I'm saying is that I strongly disagree with the violence fear tactic because, now a days people are so unpredictable. I don't want to be rude or aggressive towards you origami, and the situation may be different in different countries, but in the U.S. crazy stuff happens and if a student weren't to think logically, someone could really get hurt.
