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(Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Otherwise

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:08 am
by Seratias
Due to constant 'harrassment' from pvpers against those who forgot to make screenshots of giveback agreements in chat, I request that a new, highly simple rule is made, although I'm not sure how well it will be received.

PvP item Giveback is Mandatory unless agreed otherwise by the PvPers involved. This only should apply to intentional PvP. Anyone unsuspectingly killed by another is not capable of using this rule.

It may sound unnecessary, but all this rule would help do is place the burden of proof on the winner to rightfully claim his prize. There are constantly people who just deny having agreed to giveback being able to suppress newer players' claims on the account of no proof.

Please offer CONSTRUCTIVE criticism on this post, not just 'this iz stewpid'.
Let me know what you think!

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 3:20 am
by BSGSamuel
When is PVP intentional? People will use this to avoid giving back stuff. Instead of the argument being 'I didn't agree to give back his stuff' it will be 'It was not intentional PVP'.

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:17 am
by Agentred
People just need to be able to accept losses. :/

That's the thing, most people PvP with only one set of armor and one good sword, and they go at great lengths to not lose their stuff.

:/

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 4:47 am
by mitchie151
Half the fight is for honor, the other half for the loot. What legitamate reason does anyone have to risk good items for no reward? PVP is pointless without profit, and furthermore, this rule would be impossible to enforce.

If anything, it should be 'mandatory keeping of items unless agreed otherwise' if you dive into a PVP situation expecting your gear back when you lose.... You might just be an idiot.

It's for these reasons I think this is an incredibly useless/rediculous suggestion.

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 5:02 am
by jailbird556
No.

I know that is a simple answer but, the only time I have ever pvp'd with items returned was with friends. Normally I just kill everyone for fun :D. Beginning with turning on pvp you consent to losing items unless CLEARLY stated otherwise. Full agreement between BOTH players is mandatory. IF you forget to screenshot your agreement that's your own fault. Don't try to get rules made to fix your mistakes.

This is not placing the blame on you just people in general. "You" was used to help state my opinion not to place blame.

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:25 am
by lizardsrock4
jailbird556 wrote:No.

I know that is a simple answer but, the only time I have ever pvp'd with items returned was with friends. Normally I just kill everyone for fun :D. Beginning with turning on pvp you consent to losing items unless CLEARLY stated otherwise. Full agreement between BOTH players is mandatory. IF you forget to screenshot your agreement that's your own fault. Don't try to get rules made to fix your mistakes.

This is not placing the blame on you just people in general. "You" was used to help state my opinion not to place blame.
QFT

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 12:44 pm
by Prodigy9
No. PVP is fully optional, and has a chance to result in death. Death in Minerealm results in a loss of all items in your inventory, which can be freely claimed by other players if they get there before you.

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 1:05 pm
by Agentred
Prodigy9 wrote:No. PVP is fully optional, and has a chance to result in death. Death in Minerealm results in a loss of all items in your inventory, which can be freely claimed by other players if they get there before you.
Yeah, and it's just the fun of killing someone, being able to take their stuff. It's also no fun without any risk, if you will just get your items back.

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 6:20 pm
by eah
I ask a math question :D If they get it right, they get their stuff back.

Re: (Suggestion) Mandatory PvP Giveback, Unless Stated Other

Posted: Thu May 17, 2012 9:51 pm
by dlgn
eah2119 wrote:I ask a math question :D If they get it right, they get their stuff back.
Epic win.

Anyway, this could be somewhat annoying, although many times, people have said to me "I never said i was going to give it back, i was talking to someone else, i changed my mind," blah blah blah. It's best to get witnesses, i think.