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Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:38 pm
by 56347andy
I've thought of a way of essentially "xraying" on this server without Minerealm's xray banning script being able to stop them. It would be good if someone could think of a way to stop this.

Method doesn't need to be posted.

Just something to think about.

Re: Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 10:57 pm
by Prodigy9
Isn't there still variation in specific blocks even when the seed is the same for two maps? I thought that the seed just determined the big features of the maps (like biomes) but other random(ish) things determined the specific order of blocks.

If I'm wrong, though, then it would definitely be a big problem to be addressed.

Re: Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:01 pm
by EpicBros
Gonna go off on a limb here and say that posting a way for people to exploit the server isn't going to end well for you.

Re: Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:18 pm
by 56347andy
I was just sharing a flaw in the server system, I am merely recommending a that solution should be developed.

Re: Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:19 pm
by 56347andy
Prodigy9 wrote:Isn't there still variation in specific blocks even when the seed is the same for two maps? I thought that the seed just determined the big features of the maps (like biomes) but other random(ish) things determined the specific order of blocks.

If I'm wrong, though, then it would definitely be a big problem to be addressed.
Unfortunately no, the map is exactly the same everytime (except for the spawn point)

Re: Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Fri Feb 17, 2012 11:39 pm
by kingofturves
This is counted as cheating, has been used by cheaters in the past I believe and has been counteracted through investigation and enforcement by moderators. It should be fairly obvious to mod if you've dug straight to a resource. I sure players have been banned for attempting this in the past.
So be safe, play fair and don't cheat!

Re: Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 1:45 am
by Wxclm
People are always going to find a loop whole in the system. But it is just a matter of time until one of those people either makes a mistake or gets too confident about it and then the ban hammer comes swinging at them.

Re: elitistimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 7:24 am
by Abe
Would you like a medal for your epiphany?

Xray is trivial on most servers, especially on Minerealm. I can think of several ways to do it with or without client mods. There is no way to stop it without compromising the gameplay experience; and Minerealm's method is on balance the best approach to stopping it, even if it lets a few xrayers through.

Your Realm

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:07 am
by guadalcanal1
Are you planning to do something with that ugly realm you bought right near pieville?

Re: Legitimate X-ray Hacking?

Posted: Sat Feb 18, 2012 8:28 am
by Prodigy9
56347andy wrote:
Prodigy9 wrote:Isn't there still variation in specific blocks even when the seed is the same for two maps? I thought that the seed just determined the big features of the maps (like biomes) but other random(ish) things determined the specific order of blocks.

If I'm wrong, though, then it would definitely be a big problem to be addressed.
Unfortunately no, the map is exactly the same everytime (except for the spawn point)
Ah, all right. I've used some seeds multiple times and thought they looked different, but I was probably just spawning in different areas.